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Thursday, July 08 2010 - 09:18 PM
Deputies Arrest 16 for Panhandling, Loitering In Home Depot Parking Lot
Lancaster – Los Angeles County Sheriff’s CORE and TOP team members conducted two raids of the Lancaster Home Depot parking lot and took 16 people into custody Thursday morning.
The raids were done because of complaints received by Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael Antonovich’s office.
“There we reports of aggressive panhandling and even minor assaults,” said Deputy Mike Rust.
“People were being assaulted or in fear of being assaulted,” he said.
In the first raid held early in the morning, deputies chased and arrested 13 males – most in the 20s and 30s. In a later raid, three men were arrested.
“Most of them did not have valid identification so we will take them to the station and wait for them to be identified. If they can provide proper identification, they will be cited for panhandling and loitering and then released,” Rust said.
Anyone not able to provide proper identification will be turned over to the immigration department, Rust added.
Asked whether the Sheriff’s Department will conduct other sweeps of the area, Rust said that it depends on if there are any more complaints.
“It’s not just a Lancaster problem,” he said. “It is a statewide issue. People congregate in parking lots asking for money.”
We tend to agree with the Sheriff’s Department and the City of Lancaster leaders on this. Our town, if it’s going to be safe, has to be safe for everyone to shop or visit localities without this type of problem…that’s our opinion, we welcome yours.
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mattkeltner says...
So, now we’re arresting people for the crime of being poor?
Take a bow, paranoid right-wingers, LASD and Mr. Antonovich and AVNewstoday!
Yes, “total support”, indeed!
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Randy Hall says...
I think they said agressive panhandling and minor assaults MK.
Is agressive panhandling and minor assaults ok in your book MK. Would you draw the line at a minor rape or two?
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Randy Hall says...
Of course MK could be calling Deputy Mike Rust a liar. MK are you calling Deputy Mike Rust a liar?
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mattkeltner says...
“Panhandling” to a right-winger is simply being poor and having enough humility to ask for money or work. An “assault” means that the right-winger probably got in their faces and told them to “go back to Mexico” or “get a job” and the already humiliated man took offence. I’ve seen it played out so many times already.
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highground says...
As I said some where else, Obama has delivered the Hispanic vote to the republicans.
I am poor and I do not run when deputies appear. Must be why they do not treat me like a criminal. What do ya think……
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mattkeltner says...
I wonder how many of those who got in their faces and told them to go back to Mexico, were so-called “Christians”? I bet these “Christians” called the police on them also.
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Tom Knox says...
Matt, A week ago I went to the Home Depot in Lancaster to buy an American Flag for the holiday weekend. As I exited my car, a man approached me and grabbed my arm and asked me for money. He grabbed my arm from behind while I was walking from my car to the entrance. I jerked my arm from him and told him no. He then commented: “Come on white boy, I can see that fat wallet in your back pocket.” When I entered the store, I asked for a manager and pointed out the man, who was cornering another customer on the way into the store. Was I wrong? Should I have called you and asked you for guidance. Your assumptions are amazing. Give me your phone number and the next time I go to Home Depot I’ll come pick you up and take you with me.
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marino says...
There are signs the sheriff department posted a while back regarding loitering.
I call them when I go to Lancaster HD and they site them.
Looks like I won’t have worry as much about getting stuff taken out of my truck. Contractors have been ripped off many times there. I would know.
Why don’t you let them loiter on your property, Matt? They can sit there and wait for work. Put your money where your mouth is, hypocrite.
What they do is when you go in the store, they have a lookout keep an eye on you in the store while their buddy is jacking stuff out of your truck/car.
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roxi says...
Desperate times make desperate people. But you cons keep on doing your hard work earning your dividend money off other people’s money doing nothing. Keep on denying unemployment benefits, voting down every stimulus bill, laying off 1,000’s & 1,000’s of people.
It’s going to get worse – order online if you can’t handle reality.
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marino says...
If pro-illegal ass kissing Americans were a little smarter they demand immigration laws be enforced, for many reasons.
Dumbfucks digging their own graves.
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mattkeltner says...
The Lancaster HomeDepot should have done the same thing that the Burbank store did and build Day Labourer Centre adjacent to the store, complete with a drinking fountain and vandal-proof restrooms. It doesn’t have to be anything fancy, just a place to escape from the heat.
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marino says...
When it comes to this issue, Matt, you’re a moron. Stick with another topic, please.
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mattkeltner says...
Tom Knox,
I won’t condone what happened to you. I wouldn’t blame you for calling the sheriff if you did. On the other hand,though, think of how these men must feel. In the good times, when the economy was booming, they were used for menial labour, nobody complained. I heard some of my uncle’s friends tell him that when they had their pools put in or their yards re-landscaped, they just “went to HomeDepot and picked up a bunch of Mexicans”. Now that the economy is shitty, people are saying, “send the Mexicans home”. Put yourself in their shoes. How would that make you feel? They shouldn’t have been vengeful toward you but they were.
Again, what happened to you is awful and I wish it hadn’t occurred.
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hobojunction says...
My only concern is, since when did we become a nation of obey “only those laws we wish to”? The law is clear on being “illegal”, hence the word “illegal”.
I dont feel like driving 55 anymore, is that okay to disobey today? I dont feel like paying taxes like most of my southern brothers fail to do, is that okay for today as well? I also feel like sending all of my earnings to my relatives in Yonkers, is that okay too?
Anyone who hires “illegals” should be held accountable. Whether it is a person having a pool put in or a business hiring them to skirt American labor laws.
Exploitation is what started this mess and “finally” someone is taking a stand…I say Good for the Sheriff’s Department and Supervisor Antonovich for taking a stand.
Tom Knox, you showed great control, I would have put someone on their azz.
Go after the businesses next and make an example out of those who exploit humanity and put “American Citizens” back to work, or is that a racist thought?
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marino says...
What happened to Tom happens to many Americans. Assholes that don’t do simple research don’t know that.
Tom was lucky. I was there a couple years ago when one of them had a pistol he was flaunting.
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mattkeltner says...
Hobojunction: “Exploitation is what started this mess and ‘finally’ someone is taking a stand…I say Good for the Sheriff’s Department and Supervisor Antonovich taking a stand.”
I wish this were true, but it isn’t. Nobody is doing anything about exploitation because the Exploiters are the ones with the money that nobody wants to go after. Money ensconces one’s safety. That’s capitalism for you!
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hobojunction says...
My point exactly Matt, the direction must be taken against the employers…the employers exploit these people. To label it as a “rightwinger” agenda as some have done is stupid at best.
The left and right line their pockets on others misery. If the government had the nuts we wish they had, this problem could get solved and the fines could help educate “citizens” to help them back on their feet.
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marino says...
hobo: “Knox, you showed great control, I would have put someone on their ass.”
Exactly. Many illegals think they have a right to be here. They think we owe them something. They need to know most Americans don’t want them here, and respect our laws.
Driving 60 in a 55 isn’t an equivalent violation. Doesn’t hurt Americans nearly as much as 20 million illegals have. Thanks to our government.
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marino says...
Illegals could say they rob banks because they’re broke and need to feed their families. Do we then not enforce those laws?
Scumbag liberals want votes so bad that they do it at the expense of Americans. At least Republicans are beginning to take the proper side on this.
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mattkeltner says...
Marino: “Exactly. Many illegals think they have a right to be here. They think we owe them something…”
When you help your corporate buddies crush the unions, as Reagan did in the 1980s, American workers will be laid off. Reagan also granted amnesty to undocumented workers while he was in office. Do you think this was a coincidence?
So, you have a flood of undocumented labor working in hotels, restuarants, fast food chains, car washes and standing in the Home Depot parking lot.
Nobody said a thing when the economy was booming and Reagan crushed the unions. Nobody said a thing when he granted undocumented workers amnesty. Nobody had a problem staying in a hotel in L.A., Laughlin or Vegas staffed by undocumented workers. Nobody cared that their chef wasn’t in the country legally.
Now that these people are here, have families and are human beings – gasp! – with human ailments such as sickness and illiteracy, nobody wants to deal with them. We used them for what they were good for and now we want them out! No health care! No education! Just go!
And then some actually ponder why there is resentment? Amazing!
highground says...
AFL and CIO union leadership, Obama and the Democratic party leadership are on the wrong side of the Illegal Alien issue. Working class democrats and rank and file union members have been financially destroyed, intentionally by their own leadership. The use of abundant cheap, available labor has brought the unions and working class americans to their knees. The Illegal Alien invasion has destroyed their homes and families. The American working class wants to deal with the Illegal trespassers, and they will. You bleeding hearts who so pretend to be concerned with their welfare should advise them, the Illegal Aliens, to leave, while there is still time……..
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marino says...
Reagan fucked up. Poor decision. So did Bush and Obama. And now that it’s gotten this out of control, people have had enough and are doing something about it. First Arizona, then soon an additional 15 or 20 states have proposed the same.
And you are wrong. I was involved with this issue before any recession, along with thousands of others. I did the research. The murders, rapes, victims, schools and hospitals stretched thin, then shut down, jobs lost to illegals.
Your recent Prez Admins all playing the same game. It’s not a republican or democrat problem. Republicans fucked up too much and were on the same wagon.
Yeah, I’m adament(sp who cares) about this issue. As I got older I felt like I had to do something and get involved so that my kids and grandkids won’t end up in a 3rd world rathole. Somebody’s gotta care. 5 years ago I didn’t care what happened here. Now I do. Still hate politics. Too many crooks and dummies that have no business being politicians. Most couldn’t run a recycle stand.
That’s why they became politicians.
I have no tolerance for Americans that support our government’s current stance on this issue.
Fine the shit out of employers, put up a decent fence and enforce it, and deport. You deport people that are here ILLEGALY. What a thought.
And you wouldn’t even have to do much deporting because fining an employer $50G will give other employers the msg.
Many aliens will go home on their own. More jobs, less crime, more money, etc.
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mattkeltner says...
America won’t be a “third world” nation. The Hispanics were one of the most upwardly-mobile immigrant groups before the economic crash. They were becoming educated, opening businesses, sending their own children to university and contributing to the tax base and the Social Security base. Also, the number of Hispanic men and women in the U.S. military is disproportionate to their actual population, meaning, the percentage of Latinos in the U.S. military is higher than their percentage of the population. Hispanic workers were also contributing to – and boosting – Social Security, which is being tapped at unprecedented levels by aging Baby Boomers. Long-term programmes like Medicaid and Social Security are completely reliant on the Hispanic workforce and high birthrate to sustain them for the future and present generation of recipients. The non-Hispanic White birthrate is not high enough to sustain these programmes that you will be partaking in and needing in the future. So, when you kick all of these Latinos out (who have contributed to the fund) and there is nothing left for your children and no available programme, don’t let your spirit go wild if you see one of them spit on your grave and “thank” you for leaving them with nothing. Then again, by that time, the U.S. and it’s workforce might be a Chinese colony, so who knows?
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highground says...
Like an octopus the cost of Illegal Aliens reaches into every part of American life.
Illegals displaced $133 a year in displacement of American workers. College and high school students can not find summer jobs any more.
Each year $120 billion of hard currency leaves America for good, to pay the Mexican drug lords, for the drugs carried in by Illegal Aliens.
You, american taxpayers, pay $1.6 billion every year to feed cloth and house those wonderful mexican rapist, murderors and drug distributors that are filling 30 percent of Americas federal and state prisons.
And, don’t forget those wonderful anchor babies. More than 300,000 women annually arrive pregnant and drop the Illegal on Ammerican soil. You pay $109 billion annually for each 300,000 illegal moms and their illegal kids. Welfare, education and medical service for at least 18 years.
The annual head of household cost for each Illegal Alien is 2,700 in welfare money over and above anytaxes he or she pays in their meager paying jobs.
It cost $200 million to proved for emergency health are for Illegal Aliens in the Border states, each year.
So when we kick all the trespassers out look at the money we will save.
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highground says...
Illegals displace $133 Billion in lost jobs for American college and highschool students.
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Tom Knox says...
It’s interesting to watch all of you assume that the man that grabbed my arm and asked for money was an illegal, or Hispanic. He was an African-American and he and a partner work the Home Depot parking lot on bicycles. The manager told me it’s a daily grind to shoo them off the property.
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hobojunction says...
Tom Knox, “Tom Knox, you showed great control, I would have put someone on their azz.”
Could you please show me where I labeled him as an Hispanic? I mean, it is a sentence in a conversation, so you assume I’m addressing your assailant as an Hispanic? Damn your good…got that ESP working good.
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RealSteve says...
Tom
What if it had been BillyWifeBuyer panhandling, would you have given him money?
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marino says...
Tom,
Most of the loiterers at Lanc Home Depot Are illegal and/or hispanic.
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Tom Knox says...
Yes Marino, there were a lot of them there that day.
Hobo, I wasn’t targeting anyone specific, I should have said “most” of you, not all of you.
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highground says...
Can not speak for anyone else, but I thought those who could not provide identification would be handed over to immigration. Never even considered the one that assulted you was caught. Was he?
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138hwy says...
I get it that politicians beginning with Ledfoot “pander” to illegal aliens here in Palmdale and it goes all the way up to oopsbummer.
But since when did illegal aliens become the (un-touchable) class of people that cannot be arrested for DUI’s, need not follow any laws, nor ever attempt to learn the language of the country that they abuse?
Pay no mind to kelter as he has a “dog in this fight”, therefore his comments are silly and not supported by any facts.
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RealSteve says...
This just in.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0709101clown1.html
Those damn illegal alien clowns.
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Tom Knox says...
highground, I pointed them out to the manager and his assistant and then I went in the store to shop. I don’t know what happened to him after that. I assumed that they were going to be asked to leave the property, that was the feeling I got from the store manager. I didn’t see him anywhere on the lot when I exited the store after about 20 minutes.
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marino says...
Tom,
About 2 years ago we were at that same Home Depot protesting their allowing illegals to loiter there.
The manager came out and asked us to get off the property unless we were plannning on shopping there.
I pointed to the loiterers hanging out and said they weren’t shopping here. He, in spanish, asked the illegals to go on inside the store.
That POS manager still works there.
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avbornbred says...
I hate to sound cruel, BUT ITS ABOUT FREEKING TIME. I am sick of pumping gas, having meth-heads walk up to me and ask for money for gas. I am sick of leaving the ATM and having someone hit me up for money.
I know people are hurting, but maybe they can learn a lesson from a fellow at one of our local 711’s. About two weeks ago, I parked my car, and walked into the 711. This homeless guy had some towels and glass cleaner. He was cleaning the windows on cars without asking for money. He cleaned my windows, and I gave him $5. I could have easily driven off without giving him anything. I have a feeling he made a killing with donations from customers that day. At least he was willing to work.
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marino says...
The big difference betweenn past beggers and current beggers at your local AM/PM’s and 7/11’s is that past beggers would have some windex and a towel or squeegee and offer to wipe your windows. Now they don’t offer shit.
But out of the past 2 or 3 dozen recent beggers one did offer to clean my windows. I helped him out.
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avbornbred says...
The Burbank Home Depot does have a shelter built for the day labor force. One complaint still looming there is the illegals still congregate at the other places away from Home Depot. That politically correct bandaid fix of a shelter did nothing to solve the problem. Also, Home Depot was forced to build the shelter by the Burbank City Council or they were not going to get approved to build the store there.
You won’t see that in Lancaster.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Matt is a fucking idiot. Hiring illegal aliens put many americans like me out of work and when I did work it was with 0ver 75% illegals in most of the jobs I worked. I and my fellow americans were attacked, verbally abused and wages depressed. And I can thank illegals for me being disabled now.And now I am finally getting a operation to fix some of the damaged caused by the assaults by illegals. Too bad I had to leave the state to get the medical care I needed. Here at the VA hospital they have emergency care unlike calif. which only caters to the illegals.
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Cagy Wolf says...
I’ve been to both the Van Nuys and Burbank Home Depots and was harassed by the illegals at both stores just like at Lancaster.Americans did the same shit illegals do we would be arrested, we too want to work Mr. Keltner so why shouldn’t we come first?
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Cagy Wolf says...
For over a year Iusee to count the numbers of the day workers(illegal aliens) at Home Depot in lancaster the largest amount was 49 and the smallest 19 llegals. The whole time for a week I and another veteran who only stood there with flags and anti illegal immigration signs were harassed daily by the illegals and the LASD.
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scdyne says...
There are a couple of issues at play here: (totally ignoring the obvious debate)
1) R Rex Parris goes to that Home Depot and it’s possible that he needed to go there later as some point on Thursday and called in the ‘cleaners’ before he rolled the R8 into the parking lot.
2)The panhandlers that frequent that Home Depot are VERY aggressive and at the least – verbally abusive.
After the Lakers championship win they were selling knockoff t-shirts and approached us. I asked if he had a mobile vendor permit/license and permission from the manager of Home Depot to sell the merchandise. He made a raciest comment to me and I offered to call the police. I pulled out my phone and proceeded into Home Depot.
Bottom line is that I don’t care where I go, if there is a sign that says “no loitering, no panhandling or even no smoking” I expect it to be enforced. AND I will speak up when it is not.
Laws are put in place to protect the public, just because an individual thinks that they are exempt from said law doesn’t give them the right to ignore it.
OH! and that INCLUDES LBC Soliciting is soliciting. Don’t come to my home or a public place posted with no soliciting signs and try to sell me your product, even if it’s in the name of the lord.
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Jack says...
well Matt, looks like your the only voice for illegal immigration LOL, everyone else thinks your wrong, and i do to, i get people asking me for food all the time on Palmdale BLVD, its getting ridiculous. :(
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newstoday says...
Our Sheriff’s Department takes complaints very seriously, total support for our front line men and women in uniform.
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