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Saturday, June 04 2011 - 03:55 AM
Karl Marx reduced Blacks to animals.
Karl Marx is the hero of some labor union leaders and civil-rights organizations, including those who organized the recent protest against proposed immigration legislation. It’s easy to be a Marxist if you haven’t read his writings. Most people agree that Marx’s predictions about capitalism turned out to be dead wrong.
What most people don’t know is that Marx was an out and out racist and anti-Semite. He didn’t think much of Mexicans. Concerning the annexation of California after the Mexican-American War, Marx wrote: “Without violence, nothing is ever accomplished in history.” Then he asks, “Is it a misfortune that magnificent California was seized from the lazy Mexicans who did not know what to do with it?” Friedrich Engels, Marx’s co-author of the “Manifesto of the Communist Party,” added, “In America, we have witnessed the conquest of Mexico and have rejoiced at it. It is to the interest of its own development that Mexico will be placed under the tutelage of the United States.” Much of Marx’s ideas can be found in a book written by former communist Nathaniel Weyl, titled “Karl Marx, Racist” (1979).
In a July 1862 letter to Engels, in reference to his socialist political competitor, Ferdinand Lassalle, Marx wrote, “… it is now completely clear to me that he, as is proved by his cranial formation and his hair, descends from the Negroes from Egypt, assuming that his mother or grandmother had not interbred with a nigger. Now this union of Judaism and Germanism with a basic Negro substance must produce a peculiar product. The obtrusiveness of the fellow is also nigger-like.”
Engels shared much of Marx’s racial philosophy. In 1887, Paul Lafargue, who was Marx’s son-in-law, was a candidate for a council seat in a Paris district that contained a zoo. Engels claimed that Paul had “one-eighth or one-twelfth nigger blood.” In an April 1887 letter to Paul’s wife, Engels wrote, “Being in his quality as a nigger, a degree nearer to the rest of the animal kingdom than the rest of us, he is undoubtedly the most appropriate representative of that district.”
Though few claim him as their own, such as leftists claim Karl Marx, Thomas Carlyle is another unappreciated historical figure. Carlyle is best-known for giving economics the derogatory name “dismal science,” an inversion of the phrase “gay science,” which at the time (1849) referred to life-enhancing knowledge. Most people have incorrectly learned that the term “dismal science” had its origins in reference to Thomas Malthus’ gloomy predictions that the global population would grow faster than food supplies, condemning mankind to perpetual poverty and starvation. George Mason University professor Davy Levy, and his co-author, Sandra Peart, tell the true story in their 2001 book, “The Secret History of the Dismal Science: Economics, Religion and Race in the 19th Century.”
Carlyle first used the term “dismal science” in his 1849 pamphlet entitled “An Occasional Discourse on the Nigger Question.” He attacked the ideas of Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill and other free market, limited-government economists for their belief in the fundamental equality of man and their anti-slavery positions. The fact that economics assumes that people are all the same and are equally deserving of liberty was offensive to Carlyle and led him to call economics the dismal science. Carlyle argued that blacks were subhuman, “two-legged cattle,” who needed the tutelage of whites wielding the “beneficent whip” if they were to contribute to the good of society. Carlyle was by no means alone in denouncing economics for its anti-slavery and pro-equality position.
No less a historical figure and a Christmastime favorite, Charles Dickens, author of “A Christmas Carol,” shared Carlyle’s positions on slavery and blacks as subhuman.
Marx, Engels, Carlyle and Dickens all share one belief prevalent throughout mankind’s history down to today: the belief that some people are endowed with superior intelligence and wisdom, and they’ve been ordained to forcibly impose that wisdom on the masses.
138hwy says...
Marino..Trying to reason with people like comeff, mean wife jeanne, homos on this blog site, and black racists/separatist just cannot be done.
It amazes me that ms cineff and asswipe marsh flat out call you a racist, and you simply shrug it off as if nothing happened.
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138hwy says...
This is one reason that others have to fight back against mother fucker leftist radical/bastards and NOT be afraid of them. Certainly on this blog site we have seen just about everyone “cower” to the black racists/separatists like dbw, roxi, nope and self-loathers incluiding, but not limited to, kelter, marsh, cineff, etal.
I say FUCK THEM!!!
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marino says...
Cybertariat’s post deleted due to his immature insults/namecalling towards me and lack of addressing this issue.
Stick with the topic, Marsh, and save the namacalling for another blog. Once again you are incapable of refuting Marx’s blatant racism and treatment towards Blacks.
Too bad you take personal my quoting him. But they are nothing more than his quotes, along with Engels.
I don’t mind you posting here. But I won’t let anyone insult me on my own blog. Find another place for your juvenile namecalling.
Now lets see if you can do it.
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Cybertariat says...
“Deleted due to name-calling.” Really, marino? What, outside of “intellectually vacant and thus desperate” (which you clearly are), did I call you, marino?
Answer: Nothing! Therefore, you delted my response for no other reason than my having revealed your post as being the plagiairism that it is as well as for my having referred the readership to my longstanding “Marx, anti-Jewry, racism and the Narional ‘Socialist’ usurpation” – that which eviscerates your pedestrian regurgitations.
Oh and again, neither Karl Marx nor Frederick Engles are my heroes. For again, I have no heroes.
(Delete away, little man who is so easily threatened.)
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marino says...
You are being hypocritical, Marsh. You are threatened by Marx’s remarks and you can’t handle it. When you are constantly wrong in life, then you are intellectually vacant and confused.
Ex-Republican, ex-Democrat, ex-racist, Marxist, socialist, impatient, lacks common sense, and thinks anyone here wants to hear about his sexual experiences.
Now, was Marx a racist?
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AV Town Crier says...
In defense of Guy and Matt
You don’t have to support Marx to support his theory. He may have been a real asshole, like most politicians. Plus the world he lived in was different. But his theory (in a perfect world) is amazing. The fact that it’s still being debated today.
I don’t know how anyone can defend capitalism as it stands today. if you do you’re just a slave to the greedy Club of Rome/NWO international banking cabal.
The truth of the matter is that neither system will work on its own (not with humankind the way were are today) But a balance of the two can.
You need some socialism. We need to treat our fellow human beings with more compassion than we do. We need to help the less fortunate.
In America (back in the day) communities stood together and took care and helped each other. For example, if you needed a barn built—the entire community got together and helped. people did SHARE with one another.
Clearly that attitude is gone. Times have changed—but NOT for the better.
Sadly, the only real answer to what ails us is some sort of apocalyptic dooms day. Starting over from scratch is the only way we will ever get on track.
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AV Town Crier says...
Marx
I am a Marxist. I do feel that the world was a better place because of Marx. Groucho, Chico and Harpo Marx, that is.
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avbornbred says...
Marx’s free world is a fantasy world. In the world he describes, everyone carries his or her own load in the common good of all the people. Good luck with that one.
Here in the USA, we have an entitlement class that expects everyone to work to take care of them. That would not be a problem, except that we have another class of people that supports the entitlement class. Marx’s world would let the entitlements flounder and starv.
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AV Town Crier says...
AVB
This is true. As I stated—neither system works today. We—da people have become out and out assholes as have our masters.
There’s no truth in our current system. Greed is the culprit.
Alas, our days at the top of the food chain our indeed numbered.
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avbornbred says...
Capitalism supports private sector jobs. socialism relys on the government to support all of society.
I would say Capitalism is by far the better and proven successful approach to take.
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AV Town Crier says...
AVB
i agree in the current state of humankind. I just feel that we could have done a lot better than we have. We-da people have allowed corrupt governments, politicians, and religion to influence us and fleece us.
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avbornbred says...
Corrupt political parties create corrupt politicians, thus the money and power grab. Lobbiest have influenced leaders to create policy for power, ala Clinton and a home loan for everyone.
There are still some old school GOP’ers who managed to regain power like Lisa Murkowski in Alaska, who represent the all to familiar “good ol boys club” similiar to AVRA here in the AV.
The refreshing Tea Party movement is a collective of people tire of the old school politicians who want leaders who are will to make changes for the good of the people rather than changes for what is good for re-election.
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PKShaw says...
I disagree that people helping others has changed. We may not help each other build barns but that’s because we don’t use barns so much anymore. But look at the outpouring of support every time there is a natural disaster. I know people who took their own money, and vacation time, to go to Japan to help with that problem, to Haiti to help with theirs, to Louisiana during Katrina. Many times co-workers donate weeks of vacation time because another has used up all their sick time battling a dreadful disease. People offer up their homes to those driven out by massive fires. Americans are the most generous people on the planet, if left on their own to give it. What we don’t like is being FORCED to do it by some liberal who thinks we OWE it.
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avbornbred says...
PK, you are correct, Americans are the most generous and caring people in the world. We even take care of our own entitlement class.
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AV Town Crier says...
PK
You may be right to some degree. But at the end of the day—humankind is still a dismal failure. We have been corrupted by the powerful and greedy. They are in control and the future looks grim.
However, my opinion may change with a winning lottery ticket.
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marino says...
AVTC says, “Niether system (Capitalist or Socialist) works today.”
You couldn’t be more wrong, AVTC. You’re sounding a bit too much like Cybersocialist.
Capitalism is a far better system and always has been. Socialism ecourages much more corruption, because you are taking away from the producer, therefore the producer is encouraged to put out less.
Socialism is like radiation. A little isn’t necessarily damaging.
But to suggest that neither system works today. Capitalism has been the best system we’ve ever had. It has helped more people than any other system. It’s been proven. You don’t neeed to replace the system or add more socialism to fix Capitalism. You just need to occasionally filter out the corruption within it.
If you have corrupt leaders, replace them by any means.
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138hwy says...
Marino..Where is “studly” marsh’s picture on FACEBOOK? He always says that he is “God’s gift” and quite the (looker.)
He never wastes any chance to state that he “screws” every girl and every guy in Palmdale, RIGHT?.
marsh should fess up and out hisself. I want to see marsh and kelter together, and see some of his “fine pieces of ass.” Show them all!! The meth heads..Sierra Hwy. hookers, etal.
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138hwy says...
“They aren’t very picky.” True words…Especially when they are “loaded” up on heroin, meth, crack, etc.
The real tragedy is that these people don’t just die right off, and “have to be saved”, by police, firefighters and paramedics.
You see, in most other countries, scum like a lot of our blogger friends would be left to die a miserable death on the street(s).
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PKShaw says...
The only thing that stays the same, besides death and taxes, is human nature. Some are good, some are evil, and most are somewhere in between. Which is the beauty of capitalism.
For socialism to work people have to be the way we wish them to be; capitalism utilizes people just the way they are. Some are most comfortable at the top, some laying in a gutter, but most somewhere in between.
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Cybertariat says...
It is indeed a tragedy that some unintelligent individuals are so very unintelligent that they are unable to so much as locate a photograph of a person within that person’s Facebook account.
I’ve not accessed Facebook for several months now because I simply haven’t the time and find it to be rather insidious, but my account has exhibited a photograph of myself for a few years now. Whoopie.
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marino says...
As often as you bring up racism and accuse some of racism, Marsh, it’s ironic that you’ve never spoken of Marx’s racism.
You often quote Marx. When I do it you seem offended and irritated.
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Cybertariat says...
ROFLMAO! [M]arino deleted the post in which I directed readers to my now three-year-old parent post entitled “Marx, anti-Jewry, racism and the National ‘Socialist’ usurpation” in which I, at great length, address – in fact disembowel the scrawl having to do with Karl Marx’s and Frederick Engels’ alleged racism and anti-Jewry. (The fact that Dr. Marx was Jewish and that a majority of contemporary Marxists happen to be Jewish should be enough to eviscerate that latter bit of inanity.)
[M]arino claimed to have deleted my post because I engaged in name-calling when I clearly did no such thing, and he is now clinging to the fatuity that I have “never spoken of Marx’s [putative] racism.” You reek of desperation, marino. Or is it that you are simply too goddamed dumb to recall any one of the many times in which I have addressed those “issues”?
back to it… :-)
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marino says...
Poor, sad, confused, ex-Democrat, Ex-Republican, claims to be ex-racist, socialist, bisexual, deceitful, impatient, overreative, immature, ranting dimwit.
That’s you, Cyberboy. Avoid a question that shouldn’t take longer then 2 minutes to answer. Unless you need 10 minutes the BS your way thru it as you typically do.
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marino says...
Wouldn’t you love to hang out with Marx, Marsh? You could talk Marxism and surely avoid his ideas on what to do with Blacks.
I could hang out with Hitler and Duke and talk about our hobbies, like chess and cars. We’d aviod the anti-semite and racist crap.
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avbornbred says...
Marxism is a giant pyramid scheme, with Karl Marx at the top.
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avbornbred says...
Marino, don’t knock CYBERGUYS intellect. While I was pounding the pavement, working 50-60 hours a week, he was getting an education reading many books.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Sure Marx was a racist:
“In a July 1862 letter to Engels, in reference to his socialist political competitor, Ferdinand Lassalle, Marx wrote, “… it is now completely clear to me that he, as is proved by his cranial formation and his hair, descends from the Negroes from Egypt, assuming that his mother or grandmother had not interbred with a nigger. Now this union of Judaism and Germanism with a basic Negro substance must produce a peculiar product. The obtrusiveness of the fellow is also nigger-like.”
Engels shared much of Marx’s racial philosophy. In 1887, Paul Lafargue, who was Marx’s son-in-law, was a candidate for a council seat in a Paris district that contained a zoo. Engels claimed that Paul had “one-eighth or one-twelfth nigger blood.” In an April 1887 letter to Paul’s wife, Engels wrote, “Being in his quality as a nigger, a degree nearer to the rest of the animal kingdom than the rest of us, he is undoubtedly the most appropriate representative of that district.”
Marx also called african/americans beside nigger, he called them apes and funny monkeys who had learned how to stand upright.
Marx true colors were that he was a racist and didn’t see all men as equal.
Its funny while Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence he also owned slaves. People who believe in Marz generally are the unloved, lonely, feel they are downtrodden by the “man”, overly educated but without common sense and odds are will have lousy tables manners like chewing the food with his mouth opened and blows dirt without even an excuse me.
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marino says...
Cyberatariat actually thinks he’s smarter than Billy.
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Cagy Wolf says...
You can be smart without a lick of common sense. Sure at one time unions did help their people and got overly important and demanded far more than what our economy can stand now. The Teachers and the Guard unions are the worse in demanding high pay, higher paying pensions and health care, not to mention they will jump all over a company over the slightest “violation” of unionist rights.
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Cagy Wolf says...
You know the politically correct has edited out every example of the word nigger in Mark Twain’s “Huckaberry Finn”. History books are slanted at best and quite a lot of american history isn’t taught, unless its the old “The White Man” oppressed the native people. Sure it happened to an extent by a select few, most like my family married native americans.
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marino says...
CW: “You can be smart without a lick of common sense.” No chance in my opinion. You can have knowledge without a lick of common sense. You can read to gain knowledge. But does that equate to being smart? Guess it depends on how you define smart.
Natural logic and common sense. You add a certain amount of knowledge to that, then we’re talkin’. But lacking common sense and/or logic, and you can read all you want.
Being able to solve a problem you’re not familiar with.
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Cybertariat says...
To access the thread in which I quite thoroughly address the nonissues respecting Marx’s and Engels’ alleged racism and anti-Jewry – my “Marx, anti-Jewry, racism and the National ‘Socialist’ usurpation” (2008) – simply “click on” “The red corner” listed immediately below the title of my latest parent post “Open borders and free markets.” Upon that, scroll to the post entitled “Eliminating the need for charity” the end of which contains a hotlink dubbed “My writings here as ‘Redflag.’” After your having accessed my archived writings as “Redflag,” scroll to its second page where you will then find the thread “Marx, anti-Jewry, racism and the National ‘Socialist’ usurpation.”
Oh and, notice that, once again, marino, has mentioned my sexuality at a time in which it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter at hand. Oh, but he’s not a homophobe nor a racist, oh no!
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avbornbred: “While I was pounding the pavement, working 50-60 hours a week, he [yours truly] was getting an education reading many books.”
Ah, avbornbred is simply envious of my being able to hang out here at the commune having nothing but fun (you know, studying Marxism, dividing up the food stamps and social welfare monies, growing weed, smoking weed, etc.) all the while he is working himself to death.) I mean, what is it that you think my “back to it… :-)” means? You see, that smiley-face emoticon is an indication of the joy I receive from hanging out here at the commune … living off of all of you suckers.
Thank you for your support!
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back to it… :-) I have to, amongst other such things, process another 350lbs. of “New York
strippers.” Just kidding! We’re really going to teach the undocumented kids how to tie dye t-shirts and how to apply for and recieve even more social welfare monies.
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“You can be smart without a lick of common sense.”
Yes, I have been told that very thing by several people throughout my life – by people who are threaened by intelligent people, in order to feel better about themselves and without offering any amount of proof of my being without common sense. Most often, their “proof” is the fact that they disagree with me on a sociopolitical level. Imagine that.
Now where are the dyes, the t-shirts and those damned welfare forms that we have to work so very hard to fill out?
Persevere..
Guy
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avbornbred says...
CYBERDUDE: Thanks, I could not have explained it any better than you did!
CYBERGUY SAYS
avbornbred: “While I was pounding the pavement, working 50-60 hours a week, he [yours truly] was getting an education reading many books.”Ah, avbornbred is simply envious of my being able to hang out here at the commune having nothing but fun (you know, studying Marxism, dividing up the food stamps and social welfare monies, growing weed, smoking weed, etc.) all the while he is working himself to death.) I mean, what is it that you think my “back to it… :-)” means? You see, that smiley-face emoticon is an indication of the joy I receive from hanging out here at the commune … living off of all of you suckers.
Thank you for your support!
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THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL MAN!
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Ray Cunneff says...
I’ve been reading this blog thread with fascination. Apart from the personal conflicts involved, the duality of the upside-downside, risk versus benefit analyses of Capitalism and Socialism is always interesting.
While I don’t know much about Karl Marx and even less about about attitudes he and Fredrich Engels may have shared that some today may call racist, I do know this:
The institution of slavery, the infamous “triangle trade” of molasses, rum and slaves, could not have existed and was in fact a direct consequence of Capitalism unrestrained.
Rutledge:
Molasses to rum to slaves, oh what a beautiful waltz
You dance with us, we dance with you
Molasses and rum and slaves
Who sails the ships out of Boston
Ladened with bibles and rum?
Who drinks a toast to the Ivory Coast?
Hail Africa, the slavers have come
New England with bibles and rum
And its off with the rum and the bibles
Take on the slaves, clink, clink
Hail and farewell to the smell
Of the African coast
Molasses to rum to slaves
’Tisn’t morals, ’tis money that saves
Shall we dance to the sound of the profitable pound
In molasses and rum and slaves
Who sails the ships out of Guinea
Ladened with bibles and slaves?
’Tis Boston can coast to the West Indies coast
Jamaica, we brung what ye craves
Antigua, Barbados, we brung bibles and slaves!
Molasses to rum to slaves
Who sail the ships back to Boston
Ladened with gold, see it gleam
Whose fortunes are made in the triangle trade
Hail slavery, the New England dream!
Mr. Adams, I give you a toast:
Hail Boston! Hail Charleston!
Who stinketh the most?
From “1776” (Peter Stone & Sherman Edwards)
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Ray Cunneff says...
One of the things that makes “Molasses, Rum and Slaves” so powerful is how well it states the moral dilemma faced by the Continental Congress that everyone, both North and South, was profiting in one way or another from the “triangle trade”.
“’Tisn’t morals, ’tis money that saves”
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roxi says...
“Molasses to rum to slaves
’Tisn’t morals, ’tis money that saves”
Sounds like a local-Chappell lecture/sermon. hahahah
Thanks for the song, Ray – proves the North was just as fond of slaves as the south, and the ‘industrial revolution’ along with the assassination of Lincoln by the Conservatives was imparetive – to trash The Emancipation Proclamation, http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured_documents/emancipation_proclamation/
and NOT free the slaves, but to deny them personhood, for yet, another 100 years.
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Cybertariat says...
Ray Cunneff: “The institution of [chattel] slavery, the infamous ‘triangle trade’ of molasses, rum and [chattel] slaves, could not have existed and was in fact a direct consequence of capitalism unrestrained.”
Although I believe that the Triangle Trade began with the advent of mercantilism its acceleration did in fact coincide with the dawning of capitalism. Nevertheless and as a way of understanding the true racial attitudes of Karl Marx and Frederick Engels. Marx and Engels, as I wrote within the fifth comment post of the thread “Marx, anti-Jewry, racism and the National ‘Socialist’ usurpation,” “were the very co-founders of internationalism, and were high-profile supporters of Great Britain’s then anti-chattel-slavery movement” which came about as a direct result of the Triangle Trade’s hideous slave-centered nature. As such, their admittedly paternalistic yet few comments concerning people of color were written during an epoch in which even chattel slavery was still widely viewed as an accepted institution. But, as I also wrote within the aforesaid thread’s fifth comment post, "to convict [Karl Marx and Frederick Engels] of having been racists is to reveal a clear lack of common sense and symmetry, not to mention an understanding of Karl Marx’s and Frederick Engels’ legacies. For instance: the life’s work of both Marx and Engels gave rise to the life’s work of Vladamir Lenin, and it was Lenin’s life’s work that gave rise to the world’s anti-imperialist movement which, in turn, led in large part to the desegregation movement in the southeast United States during the 1950s and 1960s. For it was essentially capitalist culture’s aversion to the civil rights movement that Marxists made of racism in the southeast United States that initiated various desegregation efforts.
“So, no, to answer [marino’s] question, even if Karl Marx and/or Frederick Engels had been racists (they were not), it obviously did not serve to influence their work which is fundamentally non-racist in nature.” Had Marx and Engels been racists, they would now be revered by neo-Nazis and the like rather than their being reviled as they so clearly are by the likes of neo-Nazis. But please, marino, visit any neo-Nazi or Ku Klux Klan bulletin board or blog (say, “Stormfront”) and ask if its members what it is that they think of Karl Marx and Marxism in general.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Let’s see, Lenin huh? Lenin someone to admire? Lenin by his fiat had the Tsar Nicholas the second and his family put to death and to show his appreciation of his fellow workers had the Tsar’s maid and butler also put to death. Denying Marx was a racist isn’t going to stop making Marx a racist. Choosing to select what you believe isn’t reality, its fanasy land. Then you have an idiot making with the poety about the issue is amazing, like when Anita Dunn said how Mao inspired her and was her idol. Mao murdered more of his people then Hitler and Stalin combined. While there are some merits to socilism and even communism but so far neither political entity has proven to be a viable system. But to tell the truth I see no real difference between the leaders of comminist country leaders and our own democratic leaders they all want to control every aspect of our lives.
But back to Marx, from the hisory books I’ve read that mentioned Marx and communism in any depth usually stated that Marx was a racist, dirty and lazy.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Rum Plum Rum made Plum will make you Dumb and with a sore bum. Plum plum plum don’t you just feel dumb, you sorry bum?
Tom’s a bum who drinks the rum and gets dumb and blows dirt out of his bung.
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Ray Cunneff says...
Some notes on “1776” that I found interesting, written by Dave Heston:
“In the days leading up to July 4, 1776, Continental Congressmen John Adams and Benjamin Franklin coerce Thomas Jefferson into writing the declaration of Independence as a delaying tactic as they try to persuade the American colonies to support a resolution on independence. As George Washington sends depressing messages describing one military disaster after another, the businessmen, landowners and slave holders in Congress all stand in the way of the Declaration, and a single “nay” vote will forever end the question of independence. Large portions of spoken and sung dialog are taken directly from the letters and memoirs of the actual participants."
In the end, they basically dodged the issue of slavery in order to reach consensus on independence.
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Cagy Wolf says...
I believe the thread is about whether Marz and Engels were racists. But then again my rum makes you dumb also had nothing to do with the thread
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Cybertariat says...
Yes, Ray, “businessmen, landowners and [chattel] slave owners” aligning themselves with tyrannists in order to protect their selfish economic interests. Shocking.
No evidence
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Cagy Wolf says...
Just awful in fact and quite shameful I’d say ole boy. Damn shame Marx was a racist who preached his god of communism which hasn’t worked to date in any country. I read somewhere that Marx would not bathe for weeks on end and wear the same clothes until they fell apart from rot. They would only allow Marx to eat in outdoor cafes and then patrons would get up and leave or stay and puke from the smell. It might have been an enemy of Marx writing about him, just don’t remember where I read it. But I believe it. Now Lenin had some culture for a rabid murdering scumbag that Lenin was. I always wanted to go to his tomb and take a dump on the glass coffin for all to see and enjoy. That last sentence was for you Tom knowing your such an expert on scatology.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Well Haters I am out of here. Just too boring and not enough entertainment tonight. Its funny that politicians seem to weasle out of the hot water they get themselves into.
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Cagy Wolf says...
More than one dozen ambassadors from former Communist countries will lay wreaths at a June 9, 2011 program of remembrance at the statue that is the heart of Washington’s Victims of Communism Memorial Park.
Representative from ethic and religious groups who suffered at the hands of the Communists will also attend, said, Lee Edwards, the chairman of the Victims of Communism Foundation, the organization that raised money for the park and statue.
“We built and dedicated the memorial June 10, 2007,” he said. The date is significant because it was the same day the President Ronald W. Reagan stood at Berlin’s Brandenburg Gate and demanded that the Communists tear down the Berlin Wall.
President George W. Bush spoke at that ceremony and said it was appropriate that Washington have a memorial as a reminder to the conscience of the world of the more that 100 million people killed by the Communists, he said.
The statue that is the centerpiece of the park, which is less than a half-mile walk from Union Station on Massachusetts, is based on the Goddess of Democracy that Chinese students erected in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square, said Edwards, who holds a PhD and is also a senior fellow of Conservative Thought at the Washington-based Heritage Foundation.
There was some discussion about replicating the Berlin Wall, but it proved impractical given the shape and size of the park, he said.
In the end, the board decided to honor the sacrifice of the students of Tiananmen Square who were brutally massacred by Peoples Liberation Army soldiers June 4, 1989 with a statue that recalled the “Goddess of Democracy” they erected before the crackdown, he said. “The more we thought about it, the more we said yes because it shows you what Communists will do to those people who challenge them.”
Edwards said, “Because it was based on our own Statue of Liberty, it was a symbol of man’s innate desire for Freedom.”
The sculptor of the statue, Thomas Marsh, said he donated all of his time creating the 9.5-foot bronze work and only charged for expenses he could not control, such as materials and transportation.
He is also very proud that his participating in the process made him part of the response from artists around the world to events of that June 4, he said.
Edwards said the idea for the memorial came from his wife at an after-church brunch. “I was already concerned that the people were forgetting Communism, and nobody was really exploring why it collapsed or what it had done.”
After he shared his concerns to his wife, she suggested a memorial to recognize the victims of the brutal ideology.
More information about this year’s wreath laying ceremony and the Victims of Communism Foundation is available at victimsofcommunism.org.
Doesn’t that reek of hypocrisy Marsh? If communism is for the good of man, then why has been the opposite of that by their actions? Stalin killed millions, Mao killed millions of their own people. Hitler was a sunday school teacher in comparison. Tsar Nichlas the second along with his whole family, where the love of their fellow man and mercy from the communist leaders?
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Cagy Wolf says...
Madness is what it is, I say!
And quite shameful old man!
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Cagy Wolf says...
Its a small world afterall. Its damnright shameful.
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marino says...
Those men were far worse than racist. They reduced certain human beings to animals.
So what excuse will Cybertariat come up with for his hero?
Defend your boy, Cybertariat. Come up with something.
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