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Sunday, June 17 2012 - 02:50 PM
OBAMA DESTROYED RUBIO: Liberals press delete!
Amazing, a fellow blogger was all jazzed at Obama’s press conference where he announced his Executive Order to legalize illegal aliens.
This blog was titled “Obama Destroys Rubio.”. Do you Recall it? After about 30 responses, the host blogger pulled it down after 3 days of good debate. The topics changed from Rubio, The Patriot Act, and the economy. I guess, after being on the losing end of all the debates, the host ran and hid.
HERE IS THE BLOG BEFORE IT WAS DELETED!
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06/15/12 – 08:16 PM
highground says…
After hearing Romney’s response I would say Obama, has also destroyed Romney. Romney, now appears to be an amnesty candidate. Obama, smoked him out.
WHERE DO YOU GO NOW REPUBLICANS????
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06/15/12 – 09:09 PM
Ray Cunneff says…
HG,
That’s an interesting perspective. If only Rubio was a woman the Rom-bot would have the Stepford vote locked up.
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06/15/12 – 09:11 PM
avbornbred says…
I don’t see how Obama smoked anyone. He probably gained ground with Hispanics after losong ground with Hispanics over contraception and same sex marriage.
This Order was a political move made before Rubio could go public. The problem is , Obama just slammed the door on true Americans, many of whom need and want them. There is more to Rubio than an immigration policy. Obama can continue to make Executive Orders on issues ignoring the will of the people, but it will cost Obama with many voters. Acting like Hugo Chavez will not impress people.
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06/15/12 – 09:24 PM
Ray Cunneff says…
On balance, I think that politically Obama may have lost more than he gained. It may turn out that many, if not most, of those angered by this announcement already opposed his re-election.
But this was by no means a safe political move.
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06/15/12 – 09:37 PM
Ray Cunneff says…
Politics is at its heart about building coalitions. But a coalition of Hispanics, blacks and gays is an uneasy one. It’s not that they can’t be united in a common purpose, but it’s the vast middle-ground, working-class, common-sense American who will decide this.
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06/15/12 – 09:38 PM
avbornbred says…
Bypassing Congress can be dangerous politically. La Raza loves it, but not many will approve because it is pure politics. People can see Obama’s move.
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06/15/12 – 10:46 PM
avbornbred says…
Obama’s staff are out of their minds. After announcing his support for Same Sex Marriage, Obama got the support of the ignorant leadership of the NAACP. That support of the president’s endorsement created a divide in the black community, especially amongst the black churches. I suspect Obama’s support with Black Americans dropped from 95% to 91%. still, in a close race, a couple of percentage points means a lot. Although gay marriage is a social issue, Obama is losing on the economy, and created a furor among the working class and the legal unemployed people who want jobs.
Obama may lose on Obama-Care, may lose the Federal Case in Arizona, and gay marriage is not very popular. He is running on a flawed agenda and Rubio is not harmed by this.
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06/15/12 – 11:52 PM
highground says…
It is not the economy, stupid. The election in November will be won or lost by the votes in a small group of “SWING” states. Untill today when Obama, again made fools of the gutless republicans, RUBIO was Romney’s secret ace-in-the-hole….
Obama’s announcement was very similar to one by Florida GOP Sen. Marco Rubio, in that it is an alternative to the DREAM Act. Rubio, has been silenced and made to look foolish.
Todays announcement is a welcome to many kids, born here, who know no other nation. They were desparate for an answer and a champian. Obama delivered. Rubio and Romney just look like gready GRINGOS….. BRILLIANT POLITICAL THRUST…
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06/16/12 – 12:39 AM
avbornbred says…
Rubio is a Tea Party guy. His plan would not sit well with Tea Party voters. Tea Party wants the economy strong and illegals won’t help it.
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06/16/12 – 12:44 AM
avbornbred says…
All Romney has to do is oppose Obama’s order and he will appeal to more AMERICAN voters!
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06/16/12 – 01:07 AM
Ray Cunneff says…
avbb,
Can you honestly say you support the Rom-bot, or is it just anybody but Obama? Would you vote for the Stay-Puft Marshmellow Man?
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06/16/12 – 02:07 AM
avbornbred says…
Yes I can. Romney has a better plan than Obama does. Romney comes in as a more Qualified and experienced candidate than Obama was in 08. Romney plans to reduce regulations on oil and corporations to get the economic engine moving. Dumping Obamacare is probably the biggest job saving thing he could do to help out businesses.
Ray, let me ask uou this: Can you honestly say you would support Obama over Romney when everything he has tried to do has turned to shit?
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06/16/12 – 02:57 AM
marino says…
Ray, I firmly believe you know very few people that have any faith in this current admin.
Why, Ray, in the Mother Fucking Wide World of Sports do you not condemn this mess, even if you feel he’d do a better job then Romney? Has this admin in your mind done a satisfactory job?
You and roxi are the only ones on this site that don’t admit that their own political party leaders are just about as bad as the opposing dude. How many Conservatives here praised McCain? How many Conservatives here like Romney? What meat does a priest eat on Friday? That’s right. NONE!
This admin has been garbage.
Now, back to Greg Giraldo.
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06/16/12 – 03:08 AM
avbornbred says…
Ray: Everything your guy Obama has tried has hurt this country. Even when he has a trigger to pull to start pur economic engine, he fails to pull it. The Keystone pipeline, prohibiting oil drilling in Alaska, no drilling in the Gulf, and pushed for Green jobs.
Obama’s record is horrible!!! Only an idiot would want to give Obama 4 mo years.
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06/16/12 – 03:21 AM
Ray Cunneff says…
Four more years! Romney is a robot, making Bush II look like a Rhodes Scholar.
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06/16/12 – 03:22 AM
Ray Cunneff says…
I’m not a Democrat.
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06/16/12 – 03:27 AM
Ray Cunneff says…
avbb,
Talking points over and over and over…
Do you people get morning briefings every day. You say exactly the same things, day after day., word for word…
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06/16/12 – 03:35 AM
Martel says…
Obama is the worst President in my life
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06/16/12 – 03:41 AM
highground says…
Obama, is the result of the “hard” work of all you republicans. You gave us George Bush, McCain and now Romney.
Why do you credit support of Obama, with the impossible situation the American ecomony, and future are in. It is gutless, kiss-the-ass of the NWO, corruption you nominate for office that elected Obama. AND, NOW YOU REPUBLICANS ARE ABOUT TO DO IT AGAIN….
Obama, made immigration law today. He has not the Constitutional authority to make law. He will just the same, because you Republicans have elected cowardly gutless nothings to the House who will not defend and protect the Constitution.
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06/16/12 – 05:11 AM
highground says…
Republicans you have done such a wonderful job in California, that all this states electorial votes will go to OBAMA, in November. California is not in play. It is already decided here.
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06/16/12 – 12:34 PM
avbornbred says…
President Bush, if you can remember, tried to ammend the home loan problems with Freddy Mac and Fannie Mai. He knew giving out large amounts of cash to people who could most likely not make good on the loans. I think you can recall leading Dems saying there was no problem with the loans. Bush knew it was going to collapse. Bush was hit with 911 and there was a need to create numerous Federal agencies under DHS which was a huge cost. In 2003, Dems were screaming about a 4% unemployment rate. The market reached 14,000, all before the housing market wrecked. As much as the media blames Bush, along with Obama, the economy is the fault of both Dems , 911, and the GOP.
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06/16/12 – 02:23 PM
highground says…
The republicans controlled the House, the Senate and the Whitehouse in 2003 and 2004. If they had wanted to reform anything including Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, all they had to do was say so.
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06/16/12 – 02:49 PM
avbornbred says…
Not all the GOP was behind Bush because the economy was booming. He could see the practice of giving everyone a loan was bad. Remember, a lot of politicians made profits, many Dems.
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06/16/12 – 03:23 PM
highground says…
Bush was always interested in giving the people’s money, only to those “TO BIG TO FAIL.” Corrupt bankers come and get it……TARP!!! Working class Americans having serious mortgage problems from bank corruption, go to hell……. and move your family to the streets or in-laws, you are not “TO BIG TO FAIL.”
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06/16/12 – 07:56 PM
avbornbred says…
Highground: Again, that is why Bush was trying to end Clinton’s policy of allowing everyone to buy a house. With banks and lending institutions easing the requirements for home purchases, Bush could see the impending crisis.
As for foreclosures, why should people who fall behind on home loans be given a free ride. If that was the case, everyone would fall behind on payments to gain the free benefits. There has to be consequences, though unfortunate.
Even Obama has not followed through with loan modifications. I agree with modification programs and agree the banks are slow to enact such programs. There was a report that showed that a high percentage of actual loan modifications still lead to the borrower falling behind again.
When buying a house, there is mortgage insurance for the lender. When a home is foreclosed on, the lender is paid the loan back through insurance. Is it possible, politicians who pushed Fannie and Freddie loans got kick backs. Look at Franklyn Rains, a favorite with Dems, who ran federal loan programs. Rains got rich and when called onto the carpet, the likes of Maxine Waters and Barney Frank defended the loan practice.
The truth is, there was money to be made by giving loans to “poor” people with Negative Am Loans. Country Wide was the biggest violator in the loan industry those loans. It is all about commissions.
The left will blame Bush for tbe programs started under Clinton, even when Bush tried to correct the problem. When the programs failed, the Dems blamed Bush forgetting they defended those programs.
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06/16/12 – 08:45 PM
avbornbred says…
Going back on topic. How is Rubio destroyed by Obama’s Executive Order? Neither Romney or Rubio are in a position to sign Executive Orders. If they began to promote any similar type bills, their base would bring Herman Cain back as the front runner. Obama did his thing knowing it would help his far left base and repair damage caused by his other recent bonehead policies.
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06/16/12 – 11:43 PM
highground says…
TARP had nothing to do with banks lending to home owners. It simply was a scam to pass treasury funds in massive amouts to corrupt banks. It occured at the very end of the tragic Bush term.
The government should never “bail” anyone out. Not corporations or home owners. Had the government stayed out of the selective give-away program, home prices would be affordable today and the banks that were honest enough to survive would be paying interest on savings accounts.
TARP and the PATRIOT ACT are products of Bush…….
Illegal Aliens and spendidng beyond the budget are products of Reagon….Please spare us from the phoney conservatives….
Obama “did his thing” to destroy and expose Rubio. IT WORKED. Mr. Cream Puff Romney, still has not taken a position on the ILLEGALS………. guess he just does not know what to say.
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06/17/12 – 02:04 AM
avbornbred says…
Ok, here we go again with the Patriot Act. Highground, what is wrong with the Patriot Act?
I have debated Cybernut, Roxi the Ferocious, and Ray on this issue and I never get any straight answers about the Patriot Act and how it is screwing us over. President Bush, after 911, had to do something to protect this country from further attacks. DHS was created and the Patriot Act, a program used to gather intel and monitor the population targeting specific terror related suspects. No one on this blog has been negatively affected by the Patriot Act other than it is a subject to distrust the government.
If Bush had not created the Patriot Act, the Dems would be screaming that Bush was not doing anything to protect the country. Reid and Pelosi would have created the Patriot Act and libs would be praising it.
The anger towards the Patriot Act comes from people who selectively chose to forget why it was created, 911.
Look at Obama on GITMO. He made a big deal signing a document shutting it down. It is still open. Apparently it works just fine and the prisoners there sing like birds when water boarded.
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avbornbred says...
Rodney King: oh crap. Another holiday. Another street to be named in his honor. He was a man a great accomplishments!
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SaintPrick says...
AVBB: He was a man of great accomplishments!
That’s exactly what Jesse Jackson was telling MSNBC over the phone.
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avbornbred says...
The Liberal media brainwashed the viewing audiences by calling him, “The motorist, Rodney King.”. The media only recall Rotney getting his ass kicked by cops. They forget to report he was a drunk driver, leading police on a pursuit, and attacked the cops.
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AV Town Crier says...
Good riddance!
Four cops lost their jobs and went to prison falsely. King was the aggressor of the whole incident. I followed the entire incident on the police scanner and I personally know two of the cops who were on the scene and detained the passengers in King’s vehicle and were not prosecuted in the case. The female CHP officers (whom the LAPD backed up and twice tried to grab her service pistol)lied on the stand. She was later fired by the CHP. But 4 cops got screwed!
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avbornbred says...
Jesse Jackson will be remembered as a racist, NOT. HE will get street and schools named after him. I can ever understand what he says though.
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avbornbred says...
The LAPD saved Rotney King’s life that night. King was advancing on CHP Officer Singer, who had her gun out. She was going to shoot the Motorist Rotney King before Coon took over. King was going to take Singers gun and shove it up her ass.
It would have been better for everyone had singer just shot and killed Rotney. She gets a medal, cops keep their jobs, no riots, 55 people alive, and King dead a long time ago.
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AV Town Crier says...
avb
That’s how it should have played out. One split second decision and look at how it turned out.
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avbornbred says...
Back on topic: this proves there was one day of excitement over Obama’s Executive Order. We will have to see what the polls say later this week and whether it gave Obama a boost. La Raza now has 100% approval for Obama.
What really pisses me off, and this has happenex before with Libs. They start a blog, get their butts kicked, and they delete it to save face. Thank God I figured out how to save the blog for this purpose. What happened was a liberal form of censorship.
Liberals love to quiet the people they don’t agree with, then report lies over and over until brainwashing occurs with the numb thinkers.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Rodney King also was under the influence of not only alcohol but PCP, cocaine and pot, the media ignored that part and only mentioned the alcohol in King’s system. They should have allowed that CHP officer to put a clip in King and solve many future crimes. For being a thug he came out of it all with a million dollars plus all the interveiws he gets money for.
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avbornbred says...
I heard Rodney King was on Obama’s short list to replace Eric Holder as Atty General.
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avbornbred says...
Highground, come in. Highground, you out there. Highground, where are you.
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Sovereignty Soldier says...
What I don’t undertand is why anyone cares? If Osama, I mean Obama, I mean Barry Sotoro says the passes anything why go along till he proves without question where he is born? He isn’t the president, this isn’t the America I was born into and I do not recognize the governments authority at all. Why the Special Forces haven’t arrested him, people like Kissinger, or the Clintons and Bush’s is beyond me.
You all know this site is monitored by the sheriffs department and the feds right? So if you don’t personally know or know someone who does a particular person, you should consider them a punk ass fed.
Just to make a point, I haven’t seen roxi since I called her out a a plant. Not saying that means she is, but honestly who hates America that much? How could anyone vote for a guy who can’t prove his citizenship and who broke every promise he made and can’t pledge allegiance to our flag? That alone is a loyalty test. Anyone who can’t do that deserves to be thrown to the patriots: )
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AV Town Crier says...
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Show a little respect for the first foreigner ever elected President. Now more illegals can run for public office. Viva La Raza!
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avbornbred says...
Checking some polls. NEWSMAX shows Obama with 24% support for his executive order. It is gaining support from 23% on Friday.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Unemployment Higher Among Native Born than Immigrants
Monday, June 18, 2012, 9:41 AM EDT – posted on NumbersUSA
The unemployment rate for immigrant workers in the United States is lower than the unemployment rate for native-born workers, according to data from the Bureau of Labor and Statistics (BLS).
BLS’s data show that unemployment among foreign born workers in May 2012 was 7.4 percent, while for native-born workers it was 8.0 percent.
The data also show that in 2012, unemployment numbers among foreign born workers has dropped more than those of native born workers. From January to May 2012, the unemployment rate among foreign born workers has decreased by 2 percent, while among native born workers it has only decreased by .7 percent.
According to BLS, the percentage of immigrants participating in the labor force declined less than one percent. In January 2009, 67.2 percent of immigrants were in the labor force. By May 2012, that had dropped to 66.3 percent.
The BLS derives its unemployment statistics from what it calls the civilian non-institutional population. This includes all people 16 years or older who are not on active duty in the military, or in a prison, a nursing home or a mental hospital. People are considered in the labor force if they are part of the civilian non-institutional population and they either currently have a job or have actively sought a job in the last four weeks.
According to BLS, in January 2009, there were 35,007,000 million foreign-born people in the civilian non-institutional population of the United States. By May 2012, that number was 37,504,000, an increase of about 2.5 million.
Today, there are about 12,625,000 foreign-born people in the civilian non-institutional population who are not in the labor force. Back in January 2009, there were about 11,466,000. That means there are approximately an additional 1.1 million immigrants in the United States today who are not working, or trying to find work, than there were three and a half years ago, when President Obama was inaugurated.
BLS’s data shows that the increase in immigration over the past 3 years has contributed to the unemployment numbers in the United States.
According to CNSNews.com, BLS’s data on the foreign born population does not distinguish between people who are in the United States legally and people who are here illegally.
Read the full story and BLS’s unemployment statistics at CNSNews.com.
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Cagy Wolf says...
11 million illegal aliens equals 30 million anchor babies who are filling our schools and jobs,while enjoying welfare, free education, free foodstamps,free medical care, low cost housing, child care and last of all we pay to jail these parasites invading and taking over our nation.
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avbornbred says...
President Calderon in Mexico praised and thanked Obama for siging the Executive Order. Calderon likes the idea of not having to care for his own citizen rejects. La Raza, who loves their beloved country if Mexico, criticizes the USA where La Raza members go to our universities, get benefits, can protest against our country, and demand parts of our country be given back to Mexico.
La Raza is a classic far left liberal group who screams and yells without knowing what any true consequences would be if their wishes and demands were to come true.
La Raza’s demands, if passed, would mean its members would have to get jobs and work. They want college educations for what purpose? The colleges are bases for La Raza to meet, have a voice, and recruit members. They don’t want to graduate because then they would no longer have a reason to attend college and get free shit. Graduating means having to work.
The same goes for tge Occupy chuds who were to stupid to get into college. They to would have to work if their demands were to come true.
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avbornbred says...
Eric Holder claims “Executive Privilege” in not turning over documents related to the Fast and Furious program.
I find it interesting Holder denied having knowledge of the program. Now the President is protecting himself.
Obama promised transparency. What a goof!
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Cagy Wolf says...
avbornbred, Eric Holder lied about when he knew about, “Fast and Furious” a year before he said he first found out about the program. Just more of protecting Obama since Obama also knew about Fast and Furious" by his words concerning guns and mexico with good ole Hillary Clinton flapping her lips about how american guns are causing deaths in mexico. She is more concerned with mexican lives than she is protecting american lives from the thousands of mexican gang members who are here illegally. california prisons are full of them and they release them before american prisoners are released.
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avbornbred says...
Can the President lie. Yes! President Obama, during an interview with a Spanish language news outlet, was asked about Fast and Furious. The President denied any knowledge of that program. Can he lie, yes he can. The President is under no obligation to tell the truth in regards to matters of national security or that are of top secret nature.
Police officers can lie to people to obtain information during interviews and can release bogus info to the press during active investigations. President Obama, is the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the USA and is the Commander in Chief. If there are national security concerns involving Fast and Furious, I support the Executive Privilege declared by the White House if national security is at risk. That is where the White House needs to meet in private with a committee to present the security concerns.
I tend to think that Obama is using Executive Privilege to protect his re-election chances and is more politically motivated than a national security concern.
The Dems cried foul when President Nixon used the Executive Privilege during the Watergate investigation. Now the Dems are rallying around President Obama defending the Executive Privilege in a case involving a murder of a law enforcement officer. Watergate was a burglary of DNC headquarters by Nixon aids. Fast and Furious involving a murder of a cop. What is more serious?
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avbornbred says...
Cagy : I agree. What needs to happen now is the President needs to meet with a committee of Congressmen and justify the need for the Executive Order. If the committee is satisfied, then the President will be justified to withhold information, but he needs to convince Congress.
The administration can lie and mislead all it wants. But not in cases where National Security is not a concern.
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Martel says...
cagy I have to completly agre holder lied and now the president is covering up for him,remember the cover ups from the past have sunk more than one administration,One more reason not to reelect this incompetent,
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AV Town Crier says...
The real solution is for congress needs to grow a pair and restrict the use of executive orders as well as what can be covered under executive privilege. We should have learned that from Nixon and the Watergate fiasco.
We should have learned a lesson about federal govt. abuses in general from J. Edgar Hoover.
sadly, the answer to all of the above is no.
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avbornbred says...
AVTC: There is a time and place for the Executive Privilege as long as procedures are followed. Obama forgot to meet with a committee to justify why.
I just heard an interesting thing on Rush. Of course, the Executive Privilege is dominating the topics. Obama has been an opponent of assault weapons and Fast and Furious may have been an attempt to use assault weapon violence to enrage Americans to support a ban.
The Dems have attempted to blame Fast and Furious on Bush, but when asked for supporting documentation, Holder cannot produce or won’t produce the documents. If it was a Bush program from pre-2008, Obama would have a hard time saying he did not know about the program. Obama by denying any knowledge has limited his arguments for a defense.
A Rush caller also pointed out that Mexican citizens have been killed by the weapons from Fast and Furious, yet he is trying to solicit the Hispanic vote.
Sheila Jackson Lee, who is part of Issa’s committeee, has tried playing the race card, GO FIGURE!
Lee then arued Rotney King was ……..
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Martel says...
I dont know about that in your post, but one son of a bitch died today and for me the skunk is gone and we are better off without this basterd. I speak of rodney king
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