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Friday, August 06 2010 - 03:25 PM
Life isn't fair
RUSH Limbaugh: "I want to say something. I know this is not going to go down well among those who have knee-jerk reactions and I know this is not going to go down well among people who have this notion that fairness is the overriding objective of any society. I’ve made the point throughout my career, the undeniable truths of life, many monologues on this program, that life is not fair by definition. Life isn’t fair. I mean, it just isn’t, and there’s no way that you can change certain aspects that make life unfair to make them fair. Life is not equal. Sometimes people earn more than others. Some people have children when other people can’t. There’s nothing unfair about that. That’s just the way it is. Unspeakable tragedies happen to some families; they don’t happen to others. Some people live a long time; some people don’t. There’s no explaining any of this. Nobody’s in charge of this. There’s no government that can change this, although we have plenty of busybodies trying to on this “living longer” business. (imitating busybody) “Oh yeah, some people are living longer because they don’t smoke, drink, eat trans fats,” and go down that ridiculous road. But the vast majority of things that occur in the process of living life are unequal and unfair.
You have people who are career criminals who are wealthy and never get caught. They’re pursued; never get caught. They enjoy the fruits of their ill-gotten gain. There are people who play by the rules each and every day who don’t make much money. It’s not because the Constitution’s not fair, it’s not because America’s unfair, it’s not because America as constituted is not right or unjust or immoral. There are some people who go to church every day, have some of the most unfortunate, unspeakably rotten things happen to them, true believers. Other people, agnostics and atheists who seem to be living fun, enjoyable, carefree lives, you look at it and say that’s just not fair, not right. Well, maybe it isn’t. Certainly unfair, certainly unequal but it’s not because America’s not unfair. It’s not because America’s Constitution is unjust. There are people who work in sewers. There are people who work in trash and sludge all day long who don’t make much money. There are people who have never gotten their fingernails dirty, who are multibillionaires. Not fair. Not equal…
It doesn’t mean that anybody’s better than anybody else or anybody’s any worse. It certainly doesn’t mean the United States of America sucks and it doesn’t mean that our Constitution needs to be blown up and rewritten, and it doesn’t mean you’re a victim. It’s called life. Everybody tries to live their life. Some people get a better handle on it than others. Some people think they have no control over their lives. They are constant victims that are always looking to blame everybody else for what doesn’t go right in their lives. Other people don’t have time for that. They realize they only have one life and every day is something to seize, to make the most of. Regardless where you fall in this spectrum, it doesn’t mean we have a flawed country, and it doesn’t mean our Constitution is flawed. It doesn’t mean you’re a victim. It means you’re alive…."
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_080510/content/01125113.guest.html
PKShaw says...
You are so right when you say life isn’t fair and it isn’t equal – just some people are born to be incredibly good looking and others not; some are born to smart, loving and giving parents while others to crack smoking, gangbanging abusers. Just having a full time father is a luxury some have that many don’t.
No, the US Constitution doesn’t have to be destroyed, or even altered but it does have to be respected and cherished for the sheer magnificence of it. And one of the most cherished parts is this line “nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws”. Never before had any country sought to protect each and every one of its citizens in a manner such as this. What seems so basic for most of us now was quite revolutionary in the days when people were routinely killed for being different; for living and believing different truths than the majority. The underlying beauty in this document is the insistence that all persons, no matter how unequal the circumstances of their birth, will have the same opportunities to enjoy life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as anyone else. Not that these ideals will be given to anyone, but that the law won’t impede their rights to attain them for themselves.
Have we achieved this goal? Not yet, but we are getting closer. Look how long it took for Blacks to have this protection in the South. Before them it was the Indians. Now it’s the Gays.
We don’t have to like that they are gay, nor approve of their lifestyle. We don’t have to teach our children that it is morally acceptable if we believe it isn’t. What we must do is protect their rights as stridently as we do our own because we wouldn’t want to live in a country that operated any other way. Is it not odd that we so admire our finest men and women who risk their lives fighting for people to live with these ideals in other countries while at the same denying them to our own?
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Ray Cunneff says...
Life is not fair and never has been. We chart our own path and make the best decisions we can. Often, things are beyond our control. But we do the best we can. I’ve always believed that we must “play the cards we’re dealt”. Sometimes, we get bad hands. That’s the way of it.
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Randy Hall says...
“[N]or deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws”. Except for the rich, those bastards stole everything they have and their wealth should be taken from them so they become equal to the rest of us.
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Randy Hall says...
“THE BROOKS REPORT”
In a stunning development that could potentially send the nation into a
Constitutional crisis, an astute attorney who is well-versed in
Constitutional law states that the ruling against the state of Arizona by
Judge Susan Bolton concerning its new immigration law is illegal.
(Daniel Bayer/CBS News via Getty Images). The inept U.S. Attorney-General
Eric Holder.
The attorney in question submitted her assertion in a special article in the
Canada Free Press. Her argument states in part,
“Does anyone read the U.S. Constitution these days? American lawyers don’t
read it. Federal Judge Susan R. Bolton apparently has never read it. Same
goes for our illustrious Attorney General Eric Holder. But this lawyer has
read it and she is going to show you something in Our Constitution which is
as plain as the nose on your face.
“Article III, Sec. 2, clause 2 says:
“In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and
those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original
Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court
shall have appellate Jurisdiction.”
In other words, the Judge in the Arizona case has absolutely no
Constitutional jurisdiction over the matter upon which she ruled. As the
Constitution makes abundantly clear, only the U.S. Supreme Court can issue
rulings that involve a state.
This means that neither Judge Bolton nor the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in
San Francisco, to which the case is being appealed, have any legal standing
whatsoever to rule on the issue.
Thus, U.S. Attorney-General Eric Holder filed the federal government’s
lawsuit against the state of Arizona in a court that has no authority to
hear the case.
The attorney whose heads-up thinking concerning the Constitution provides
the legal remedy for dealing with this blatant disregard for Constitutional
law in the article at Canada Free Press, which can be accessed at the link
above.
In a related development, another explosive discovery was made by those who
actually take the Constitution seriously. The Constitution specifically
allows an individual state to wage war against a neighboring country in the
event of an invasion, should there be a dangerous delay or inaction on the
part of the federal government. This information was cited by United
Patriots of America.
From Article I, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution, we find these words:
“No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, engage in War, unless
actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.”
No one who is actually familiar with the crisis at the southern border can
deny that Arizona is endangered by the relentless assault of lawless Mexican
invaders who ignore our laws, inundate our schools and medical facilities
with unpaid bills, and even endanger the very lives of citizens with
criminal drug cartels that engage in kidnapping, murder, human trafficking,
and other mayhem, including aiming missile and grenade launchers directly at
U.S. border cities from just across the Mexican border.
This is every bit as much of an invasion as the nation of Iran sending in a
fleet of warships to the Port of Charleston.
The Constitution that forms the basis of the rule of law in this country
says that Arizona has legal right to protect itself in the case of inaction
or delay on the part of the federal government, including waging war in its
self-defense.
This, when coupled with the clear Constitutional mandate that only the
Supreme Court hear cases involving the states, should be ample legal basis
for attorneys representing Arizona to go after the federal government with a
vengeance.
Governor Jan Brewer and the stalwart members of the Arizona legislature have
ample legal reason to stand firm against the illegal bullying of an
arrogant, lawless federal government.
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roxi says...
Randy, if you’re going to quote the Constitution, Article III – or cut & paste from an obviously biased article you found, first list the beginning of Article III:
“Section 1. The judicial Power of the United States shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
Section 2. The Judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; -to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, or public Ministers and Consuls;-to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;—to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;—to controversies between two or more States;—between a State and Citizens of another State,—between Citizens of different States,—between citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects."
RH:“Governor Jan Brewer and the stalwart members of the Arizona legislature have
ample legal reason to stand firm against the illegal bullying of an
arrogant, lawless federal government.”
Brewer has no leg to stand on and could be tried for Tyranny.
RH:“This, when coupled with the clear Constitutional mandate that only the
Supreme Court hear cases involving the states, should be ample legal basis
for attorneys representing Arizona to go after the federal government with a
vengeance.”
Read it again. The Supreme Court has the power to enact laws OVER the States. Sorry, Obama is right.
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Randy Hall says...
I find it refreshing we agree roxi. Only the supremes can…made my point much more clear. Thanks!
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No Spin says...
roxi posts: Brewer has no leg to stand on and could be tried for Tyranny.
Typical Lib.. Arrest, jail, bully, chastise, maybe even exterminate, anyone who disagrees with Savior Obama..
What Country do you want to live in?
AmeriCa or AmeriKa??
Easy decision for me..
How about we arrests the thieves in DC who voted to steal $26 Billion more of your money to “SAVE UNIONS” even though over $400 billion from the Porkulus is still unspent?? And they are paying for it by decreasing food stamp allocations! Where are the LIBS? Why are you not screaming??
Or the $4.6 billion being spent on Healthy meals in our schools!!! GIVE ME A Break…
And there are hundreds of other examples of ROBBERY…all you need to do is open your eyes..
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Randy Hall says...
“Following in Bush’s footsteps but with a longer gait, Obama has maintained and expanded the wiretapping and surveillance of citizens’ communications, recently including warrantless seizure of private e-mails. He has been granted the power to shut down the internet at any time he deems necessary, and he is working diligently to further control all communications through the FCC and his Marxist communications diversity czar, Mark Lloyd.
Most distressingly, Obama has reserved for himself the right to declare any U.S. citizen a “terrorist” and target him for assassination without a trial or due process. Homeland Security Chief Janet Napolitano has identified veterans, states-rights advocates, people who oppose abortion or illegal immigration, and members of right-wing groups as potential domestic terrorists. To paraphrase Newsweek magazine, “We are all terrorists now.”
The pieces of the “benign dictatorship” of Obama have been set into place. The two primary components are the gargantuan monstrosities known as ObamaCare and the Financial Reform Bill. They were intentionally designed to be indecipherable. Read the statements of our most brilliant legislative minds in Congress:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA): “[W]e have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.”
Rep. John Conyers (D-MI): “What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages?”
Christopher Dodd (D-CT): “No one will know until this [financial reform bill] is actually in place how it works.”"
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/benign_dictatorship_and_the_pr.html
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lancaster says...
gosh tb, wasn’t it u who keeps telling everyone they can’t think on their own. yet every post of urs appears to be from the american thinker. hhhmmmmmm
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Randy Hall says...
Pretty sure you just said that and have before. I’m guessing you are projecting yourself yet again.
You sure use exaggerated rudeness to make your point which shows me another personality defect and that’s your obvious feeling of inferiority.
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lancaster says...
spoken like a true victim. just hit the sedatives, wash it down with a cold one, and u’ll be right as rain tb!
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Randy Hall says...
If you ever care to debate let me know CB. Maybe you deserve an upgrade to cyber terrorist.
Name calling and bully tactics you have down pat. That is the usual tactic of those with no answers.
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lancaster says...
lololololololololol
well of course that’s it toyboy, ur sssooooo important that a terrorist is coming for ya! bahahahahahahalololol!
damn, that’s funny! guess the sedatives have already kicked in and ur paranoia is only to be matched by ur delusions of grander!
yawn. do stay and tell us why ur worthy of terrorist attention toyboy.
i promise to stay awake for it! (not)
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Randy Hall says...
So you want me to feel that I’m a victim of your cyber abuse?
OK, please point yourself out to me in my next public meeting so I can show security who is trying to harm me.
Ok?
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Randy Hall says...
Do I really need to hire private security and point you out to them that you are a c-bully that needs close scrutiny?
Keep calling me names and attacking my method of sending my kids to college and I’ll be happy to report you as the one wishing me harm.
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Randy Hall says...
Lanc, cyber-bully is no different than burning a cross in my yard. Can I feel that you are the new KKK?
I’ve no idea who you are so should I ask for a CCW to anticipate our first public meeting?
If you relish that you make me a “victim” why then should I not worry for mine and my families safety.
You feel you can make terrorist-like innuendo
and not understand the fear you may instll in a public official?
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Martel says...
Randy I dont care where you got this post from. I agree with it all life is unfair for most but we keep on moving forward regardless what we have been confronted with.Often we wonder how so many skunks and cruel people continue to seem to be above it all. My attitude is keep on and keep the faith.
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Randy Hall says...
I’m a family man paying college tuition and trying to make a difference in my community and lanc you want me to feel I’m a victim of your cyber-abuse?
Can we debate the topic a hand and move forward, or do I have to worry your calls for hate directed at me are your wish for me to suffer physical harm?
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roxi says...
8/07/10 – 03:34 PM
No Spin says…
roxi posts: Brewer has no leg to stand on and could be tried for Tyranny.
Typical Lib.. Arrest, jail, bully, chastise, maybe even exterminate, anyone who disagrees with Savior Obama..
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Has nothing to do with ‘Savior Obama’ and a lot to do with politicians who swear to uphold the Constitution when elected into office. Take Michelle Bachman – she told her teabaggers etc to NOT fill out the Census, whereas it is required by law to do so.
Brewer by-passed her own States Atty and hired a private firm in AZ to acquire her agenda. Is that not circumventing the US Constitution for her own gain?
spin:“How about we arrests the thieves in DC who voted to steal $26 Billion more of your money to “SAVE UNIONS” even though over $400 billion from the Porkulus is still unspent??”
How is that any different than the unspent PORK that continues to inflate with the Pentagon budget?
Looks like they have plenty of JOBS right now in DC, nobody’s hurting. When you complain about the Unions that now represent about 12% of the workforce in this country – your complaint goes hollow.
“And they are paying for it by decreasing food stamp allocations! Where are the LIBS? Why are you not screaming??”
Right, foodstamp $$ to the states. There’s just x-amount of $$ to go around, as you Cons know. What’s the priority right now? Jobs. If Obama agreed to create a slush fund for mentally ill NeoCons, you’d still be whining!
Spin: “Or the $4.6 billion being spent on Healthy meals in our schools!!! GIVE ME A Break…”
What? Now school kids aren’t entitled to eat healthy food? ha.
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marino says...
So Brewer is enforcing immigration laws and should be tried for Tyranny.
The problem with illegal immigration and laws not being enforced has a lot to do with the number of scumbag Americans that aren’t pulling their weight fighting those losers, including that traitor Obama, that aren’t enforcing laws.
Brewer should be commended. That is the type of leader we need as president.
Not some pussy wanna be socialist non qualified “community organizer” and his tribe of clowns.
Obama would be impeached and jailed if it were up to most Americans.
And NS, I believe most liberals think Brewer is doing the right thing. Forgive roxi, she gets a little dingy sometimes.
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Randy Hall says...
“Take Michelle Bachman – she told her teabaggers etc to NOT fill out the Census, whereas it is required by law to do so.”
Not what she said: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-5095844-503544.html
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Randy Hall says...
If this rings “hollow” “Looks like they have plenty of JOBS right now in DC, nobody’s hurting. When you complain about the Unions that now represent about 12% of the workforce in this country – your complaint goes hollow.”
Then why are the economies of the states and car companies in so much trouble?
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roxi says...
Randy says: “Then why are the economies of the states and car companies in so much trouble?”
Heard today that conservatives think it’s a good idea that states dig up all the paved roads they can’t afford to pave anymore and replace with gravel – ‘cause that’ll lower the deficit burden for their children.
What would Eisenhower say?!!
It’s ok to the Cons that this country turn into a 3rd world country with dirt roads and poverty – otherwise they would endorse changing the tax loop-holes Corp’s enjoy — wouldn’t they?
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Randy Hall says...
Maybe this is why corps are fleeing our country?
http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/22917.html
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Randy Hall says...
Roxi, do you think this could be a problem?
http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_15697701?nclick_check=1
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Randy Hall says...
“It’s ok to the Cons that this country turn into a 3rd world country with dirt roads and poverty – otherwise they would endorse changing the tax loop-holes Corp’s enjoy — wouldn’t they?”
“A New York Daily News article recently published that for every dollar the police put into the pension, taxpayers put in nine dollars. The article also went on to say that New York City’s pension and health care costs will double by 2016 to 12 billion.
With the stimulus bill, a lot of states were temporarily bailed out but now states are going to have to find money elsewhere in the future and the future is bleak. Without major changes states may soon have to declare bankruptcy. Recently, GM declared bankruptcy because it was paying too much in health plans and retirement costs. This caused GM to lay off thousands of workers.
This is one reason why unemployment is at 9.5%. Instead of hiring more teachers, school districts have to lay off the young teachers so it can pay the salaries of older teachers and retirement costs. I spoke to a teacher the other day and she told me that she only has to pay retirement the first ten years. This has to change."
http://www.411mania.com/politics/columns/148512/Public-Pensions-Are-Drowning-Us.htm
Sorry it is what others say, but it is how I feel about this issue.
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roxi says...
marino: “The problem with illegal immigration and laws not being enforced has a lot to do with the number of scumbag Americans that aren’t pulling their weight fighting those losers, including that traitor Obama, that aren’t enforcing laws.”
Right, there’s been lots of Scumbags: Reagan (pardoned 1,000’s), Bush I, Clinton and Bush II, all who didn’t do anything either – why does Obama get all the credit?! ha.
Congress hasn’t and won’t do anything either becuz they’ve been paid off by the Corp’s that hired, or did hire illegals…after all, if their puppets in Congress don’t vote that way, they’ll just ruin their lives and hire off-shore (anyway).
This is why there’s this deafening silence from DC on this issue…
If it goes to the Supreme Court…what are they going to interpret as the law of the land? What’s on the books.
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roxi says...
http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/22917.html
“…Currently, the average combined federal and state corporate tax rate in the U.S. is 39.3 percent, second among OECD countries to Japan’s combined rate of 39.5 percent.1 Lowering the federal rate to 30.5 percent would only lower the U.S.’s ranking to fifth highest among industrialized countries.”
And, has anyone bothered to take into consideration how much LARGER the USA is, in both area and population to Japan?
Has anyone bothered to consider how much more buying power the U$ has over Japan, Sweeden, Ireland, etc – and how more lucrative it is to trade with the US than these smaller countries?
Of course they have-but they don’t say that – do they?
“…proposals to cut the corporate rate even deeper to 25 percent. While this lower rate would improve the U.S.’s international ranking and competitiveness, that improvement would be mitigated by the high corporate tax rates imposed by many states.”The states are starving – you’re NeoCon plan to ‘starve the beast’ is working. Now you want more…more more more!!! States are raising taxes because they ain’t got no money!
National and International Corporations are sitting on TRILLIONS OF $$$ OF CASH!
We’ll see what the Fed does tomorrow.
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Randy Hall says...
“The have-nots are taxpayers who don’t have generous pensions. Their 401(k)s or individual retirement accounts have taken a real beating in recent years and are not guaranteed. And soon, many of those people will be paying higher taxes or getting fewer state services as their states put more money aside to cover those pension checks.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/07/your-money/07money.html?_r=1&hp
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No Spin says...
roxi
Tell me me why the Crooks in DC are spending another $26 Billion on this bullshit Jobs Bill when we there is $421 Billion left from the Porkulus bill?
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Randy Hall says...
NS perhaps this is the answer?
“And to the extent this gap exists, conservatives are surely right when they say that unions and government accommodation of them are the main reason. Unions represent around 37 percent of public sector workers, compared to 7 percent of private sector workers. Note that one of the few exceptions to the public-private compensation differential seems to be unionized industrial laborers, like the auto workers—and that, during last year’s debate over what to do with the auto industry, we were having a very similar conversation about the relatively rich benefits that members of the United Auto Workers were getting.”
http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/76884/why-your-fireman-has-better-pension-you
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roxi says...
The ‘have nots’ use to be the ‘haves’ until they were robbed of their pensions and 401k’s. I have a friend who worked 35 years for United Airlines, and when he retired, his pension was ‘handed over’ to baby Bush who cut it in half. So, now he has to work well into his 70’s at a milk plant – after working for United for 35 YEARS!
Is this what you call ‘compassionate conservatism’? DENY people their earned pensions and just make them work until they drop dead?
cool.
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Randy Hall says...
How did GW cut your friend’s retirment in half?
I know my stock market portfolio dropped lots of value, but I know that is a risky investment. Did your friend know of safer less risky investments for his retirement?
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roxi says...
And, Unionized workers set the pay scales for the country, don’t they?
This is why you Cons want to bust the Unions – drop the hourly wage to 3rd world status – mo’monies fo’ the riche.
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roxi says...
Editorial
United’s Pension Debacle
Published: May 12, 2005
©New York Times
On Tuesday, when it received a federal bankruptcy court’s permission to terminate its pension plans, United Airlines became the biggest pension defaulter in the history of corporate America. Analysts fear that Delta may also default, as well as other ailing airlines, followed by auto parts companies and perhaps even, in five years or so, the carmakers themselves.
When the court’s decision is finalized, United will unload $6.6 billion of obligations onto the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation, the federal agency that insures corporate pensions. Some of the 134,000 employees and retirees of United will see little change in their retirement payouts because the government insures a big chunk of promised benefits – up to $45,614 this year for someone retiring at age 65. But for others, especially pilots, who typically accumulate six-figure pensions and must retire at age 60, the cuts will be draconian.
Sadly, it’s too late to offer relief to the burned United employees. But their plight should compel Congress to learn the right lessons and take the necessary steps to protect Americans’ pensions.
There are, for instance, loopholes in the law that is supposed to penalize companies for underfunding their pensions. Currently, the government estimates that, at most, 20 percent of a total of $450 billion in underfunding is due to financial distress at companies. The rest is occurring at businesses that are financially healthy and are simply dodging their responsibility to put the proper resources into their pensions.
Congress must also raise the premiums that corporations pay the government for federal pension insurance, something that hasn’t been done since 1994. This is politically difficult because corporations obviously don’t want to pay higher premiums. Unions, fearing that corporations will cut back or drop pensions if forced to pay more, have not been lobbying for the change. But study after study shows that premiums are underpriced by one-sixth to one-half. No wonder that with the United default, the pension agency’s deficit will rise to $23 billion; as recently as 2001, it had a surplus of $7.7 billion.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/12/opinion/12thu1.html
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marino says...
I agree roxi with your take on Reagan, the Bushes, and Clinton. They started the open border ball rolling and it has gotten to this. They F’d up and should be held accountable. Obama is the current dog in charge and he’s doing a poor job of enforcing laws, and a good job of kissing illegal alien ass, along with Calderon’s.
It’s gotta stop somewhere.
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Randy Hall says...
I guess if you got to blame someone GW is an easy target. It would be nice to see exactly how GW killed those retirement plans other than that’s how I feel.
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No Spin says...
NOTE: No roxi answer to the DC Crooks question..just more cut and paste garbage..
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lancaster says...
why does donno only care about the lefts cut n paste? roxi’s piss u off, but tb’s r just fine?
hmmmmmmmmm and our favorite word kids?
u got it! hypocrite
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No Spin says...
Hey lame..
How about you reply eh??
Tell me why the Crooks in DC are spending another $26 Billion on this bullshit Jobs Bill when there is $421 Billion left from the Porkulus bill?
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lancaster says...
sure donno. right after u tell me why u don’t mind tb’s cut n paste but throw a lil girly tantrum when someone on the left does one?
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Randy Hall says...
No lanc answer his question or concede the point.
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Randy Hall says...
NS ever get the impression we are dealing with the very immature? Can’t even answer a civil question.
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lancaster says...
u call that civil?
coming from the blog victim.
hypocrite!
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No Spin says...
Hey lame..
How about you reply eh??
Tell me why the Crooks in DC are spending another $26 Billion on this bullshit Jobs Bill when there is $421 Billion left from the Porkulus bill?
Come on lame..or roxi.. how about it?
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Randy Hall says...
I’m simply exploring ways in dealing with emotionally handicapped bloggers.
We ask questions and instead of defending a position we get personal attacks. After awhile I assume my debate opposition is some how handicapped or immature.
Which is it?
Or answer the questions and have a REAL debate on the issues.
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lancaster says...
sure donno. right after u tell me why u don’t mind tb’s cut n paste but throw a lil girly tantrum when someone on the left does one?
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Randy Hall says...
Wow, lanc, my cut and pastes are due to misinformation I get from the libs. For example roxi said taxes on corps were not high enough, so I gave her proof that her feelings were wrong. Roxi said Michele Bachmann said don’t fill out your census form so I used a cut and paste to prove her feelings were wrong.
In other words roxi’s feelings are her feelings and maybe she has those feelings because she only feels that way. I’m trying to show her that her feelings are not true. I don’t consider roxi handicapped or immature she never personalizes except for Mayor Parris and then she lights into him like a tube steak. Or maybe a vegetable roll in case she’s vegetarian.
Of course with you you’re always pissed off so no truth will ever sway you unless you decide it is truth and any truth I give you I suddenly become the issue.
I was thinking if you are not handicapped or immature what other reason could there be for you to ignore the questions in my quest to debate facts not emotions?
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lancaster says...
and again, tb, the question wasn’t for u! get a grip. we don’t care what u say!
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Randy Hall says...
Then why the venom? You must care to insult me so.
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lancaster says...
DO U EVER GET TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT U, TB? r u really this insecure?
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No Spin says...
So lame, AS USUAL, answers NO questions and simply attacks and misdirects..
The Blog Clown is consistent..
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lancaster says...
i asked u 1st donno. so i guess this misdirection is coming from u!
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Randy Hall says...
NS, lanc, cares he really really cares!
I want to thank the Academy for this award…
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lancaster says...
oh come on donno, please, tell us why only the right can cut n paste in ur world. pretty please.
there, i asked all nice. can ya answer the question now. our lil delicate flowers?
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No Spin says...
hey lame.. Damn, my bad.. I forgot..
There is no reason to actually debate anyone..it takes an IQ larger than the size of one’s sneakers.. And for a brief moment, I forgot that you do not qualify..
My bad…
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lancaster says...
so tb, if someone tells u 2+2=4, does one FEEL that’s correct?
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No Spin says...
How about any of the other Obama Bots in here? Does this new FAKE JOBS BILL work for you??
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Randy Hall says...
Well coming from you lanc, I’ll have to do a google search to make sure. You have a habit of making the easy seem like the Cold War.
Answered a question, my turn. “Tell me why the Crooks in DC are spending another $26 Billion on this bullshit Jobs Bill when there is $421 Billion left from the Porkulus bill?”
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roxi says...
Why don’t you all post a link or start a new blog explaining what this is all about…then someone might answer your question….?!
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Randy Hall says...
Roxi, we were discussing an issue and that issue became me because I try to prove my points with links to news sources that you and others on your side trust like CBS, and NYT. Lanc, calls my lack of using my feeling to making a point “cut and paste.”
Lanc, didn’t want to answer any questions till I did so he asked me what 2+2 was and since he asked and I answered I asked him NS’s question. So far lanc, won’t answer unless maybe calling me names and insulting me is his way of answering an economic question.
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No Spin says...
Here let me reply.
Because this way they kiss the unions ass publically to buy more DEM VOTES.
“We are saving Teachers, Law Enforcement and Firefighters jobs”..
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. they lay them off first, instead of REAL CUTS, so they can come back with this bleeding hearts crap…. And the “Lame ones” buy into this charade..
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No Spin says...
And they are taking money from the libs Favorite “Give me free stuff for life program”.. Food stamps…
Guess the libs don’t care about the poor anymore.. LET EM STARVE, right?
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roxi says...
Still haven’t a clue as to what you’re talking about – I thought the ‘question’ was:
““Tell me why the Crooks in DC are spending another $26 Billion on this bullshit Jobs Bill when there is $421 Billion left from the Porkulus bill?”
Define “Porkulus bill”?
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Randy Hall says...
Can of worms Shirly Sherod opened. Oops!
Pigford v. Glickman
In 1997, 400 African-American farmers sued the United States Department of Agriculture, alleging that they had been unfairly denied USDA loans due to racial discrimination during the period 1983 to 1997. The farmers won the case, known as Pigford v. Glickman, and in 1999 the government agreed to pay $50,000 each to any farmer who had been wrongly denied an agricultural loan. By then it had grown into a class action case, and any black farmer who had filed a complaint between 1983 and 1997 would be given at least $50,000 — not limited to the original 400 plaintiffs. It was estimated at that time that there might be as many as 2,000 beneficiaries granted $50,000 each.
http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/2010/07/27/pigford-v-glickman-86000-claims-from-39697-total-farmers/?singlepage=true
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No Spin says...
Porkulus = $847 Billion Stimulus Bill OBAMA passed promising unemployment would not exceed 8% if it was passed..
There is still $421 Billion unspent..
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Randy Hall says...
Roxi, if you go to www.bing.com or www.google.com and enter “Porkulus bill” you will have your definition.
I could cut and paste the answer but lanc, might pop a tire or something.
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roxi says...
RH: “I spoke to a teacher the other day and she told me that she only has to pay (into?)retirement the first ten years. This has to change.”
Many Unions are structured where the workers have to “pay into” their retirement forever, not just 10 years. These funds are usually matched by the contractor/employer @ whatever % agreed upon – which changes from time to time. Agreed, that workers should pay into their retirements and not expect the employer to foot the whole bill – but companies like WalMart, who offer health insurance expect employees to pay a huge % of their income into these plans – which of course most deny, because then it wouldn’t be worth it to work there.
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roxi says...
rh:By then it had grown into a class action case, and any black farmer who had filed a complaint between 1983 and 1997 would be given at least $50,000
Well, if it grew into a class-action suit – there must have been some abuse going on, right?
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Randy Hall says...
Roxi, do we force WalMart to offer better benefits or do we say the employees use that as an entry level job till they find something better? If they are not smart enough to get a better education (because life isn’t fair) then isn’t SS good enough?
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Randy Hall says...
Point about the black farmers isn’t the class action suit it is that they paid benefits to 89,000 black farmers and according to the Census there are only 39,000 black farmers. Shirly Sherrod was at the center of that scandel and that was what Andrew Breitbart was trying to expose with his doctored video of Shirly.
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roxi says...
“Porkulus bill”, coined by scholar Rush Limbaugh, with his opinion published in the WSJ: Hilarious!
Should’ve known it was a RWNJ con, brought to us via Ex-Pat-Aussie Murdock & ‘friends’! lol
http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB123318906638926749.html
Rush:“…I say, cut the U.S. corporate tax rate — at 35%, among the highest of all industrialized nations — in half. Suspend the capital gains tax for a year to incentivize(sic) new investment, after which it would be reimposed at 10%. Then get out of the way! Once Wall Street starts ticking up 500 points a day, the rest of the private sector will follow. There’s no reason to tell the American people their future is bleak. There’s no reason, as the administration is doing, to depress their hopes. There’s no reason to insist that recovery can’t happen quickly, because it can…”
In your dreams, Rush!
Once the books are open as to just how much the Corp’s are hording in their bank accounts and not lending out to small businesses, not hiring Americans and only foreigners – this theory will collapse like Rand Paul’s hose on his bong!
Bipartisan? This again, is Corporate Welfare.
question answered.
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No Spin says...
roxi
Why not answer the question that lamecaster ran and hid from?
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Randy Hall says...
My answer to fixing the economy would be to suspend paycheck with holding for a year. When the workers have a third more money in their pocket the economy would boom. It would cost about $700 billion to do that.
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No Spin says...
So roxi
You are ok with stealing from the Food Stamp budget to give to the unions even though almost 50% of the stimulus bill has not been used?
YES or NO?
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No Spin says...
And then there is the $786,000 a year the teachers union is rallying for to provide free Viagra instead of using the money to re-hire laid off teachers..
Is that ok too?
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No Spin says...
Why is the song “Silence is Golden” stuck in my head?
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Randy Hall says...
NS, did you see an answer. What did she say, did she get mad at Rush Limbaugh for the libs asking for more money when they had so much unspent. Help NS roxi said she answered did I miss it?
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No Spin says...
There NEVER is a reply Randy..ALL a lib can do is attack..
I asked two questions..LAME answers with an assault on you and me, Roxi attacks Limbaugh…
And you are surprised?
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Randy Hall says...
It is the way of the liberal. All feeling all caring no real substance at all.
On the other hand we are pragmatic. Maybe we could start a political movement that is pragmatic…they did it is the tea party movement, which the libs want to slur and insult.
November will be so much fun, it may even take the place of Christmas this year as my favorite day.
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Randy Hall says...
“A switch of 10 seats will give GOP control of the senate. It is extremely rare for such a turnabout to occur in Mid Term elections (the GOP picked up 12 seats in the Reagan landslide in 1980 with the last swing of this magnitude in a mid term election being the 13 seats won by Democrats in 1958). But it appears that a perfect storm is brewing that could sweep away even long time incumbents like Barbara Boxer and Russ Feingold who are running for their lives just 10 weeks before the election.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/gop_chances_to_regain_senate_b.html
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avbornbred says...
Even if the GOP does not get back the majority, there will be plenty of Dems who will not be a sure thing for Obama. With the trend of Dems not flocking to kiss Obama’s hand, it shows that they will run from his policies because they are not the will of the people. Either way, the Dems are going to have problems after the November elections.
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marino says...
Charles Rangel was Charles Rambler today. Funny old corrupt dude. You’ve gotta see the vid. He went on for a good 20+ minutes.
When will Maxine Waters try to explain herself? That should be as funny as Rangel.
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No Spin says...
marino
I swear he was on downers… LOL… Hilarious.. I hope he continues.
Much better than SNL
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marino says...
NS, I hope he’s got plenty more to say. He’s definately not boring. There is no way SNL could match it.
“I apologize to those that I may have caused embarrassment to…”, while he insists he’s done nothing wrong, while apologizing at least 4 times.
I occasionally hammer Republicans like Meg Whitman for their occasional bullshit and I’d like to hear a liberal here state the same for Rangel.
Bonus points available for the first lib to speak up re. Rangel.
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No Spin says...
And he is only the opening act..
Wait until the “Buffoon-esque” Maxine Waters starts in!!! Laughs for all!
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marino says...
I’ll be picking on corrupt black politicians today, mostly Rangel Waters, and Obama, in that order. I apologize for including Meg Whitman in today’s comments. I will be attacking white corrupt politicians tomorrow, and likely corrupt hispanic politicians on Thursday. Friday is open.
I can’t believe MSNBC hammered Waters. Way ta go Norah O’Donnell!
Randy Hall says...
On Friday how about aliens?
http://waxman.house.gov/
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mattkeltner says...
Maxine Waters got “hammered” by MsNBC because she led us all (those of us on the Left) to believe that she was above the corporate scams. Now, we have a corporate whore in our midst. It explains why she “protesteth much”.
Randy Hall says...
Picking on Maxine is right in line with this blog’s title Life Isn’t Fair!
Poor Maxine, she was born with a silver foot in her mouth.
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138hwy says...
Marino..Way to go…Priceless!!!
If these two crooks go to “trial” then in November it will be better than even I suspect.
When a felon gets caught, most times they “spill the beans” on fellow co-criminals.
Go Maxine and Charley..Take this all the way and implicate EVERYBODY. Like Randy stated…Christmas will come very early this year.
LIBS..Where is ya?
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marino says...
Sorry for going off topic, Randy. I have a problem with that and haven’t seeked therapy for it.
I’ll try to combine Rush with Maxime. I’m sure Rush has spoken of her often.
“On Friday how about aliens?” If you mean those that aren’t enforcing exiting laws, then you won’t have to twist my arm.
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Randy Hall says...
Marino you are right on topic, no reason to be sorry. Keep it up. Life isn’t fair to criminals.
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mattkeltner says...
While you’re beating up Maxine and Charlie, however, don’t forget about your GOP and how many criminals it houses:
Duke Cunningham,
Claude Allen,
Larry Craig,
Tom DeLay,
Rick Renzi,
Scooter Libby,
Don Young,
George Ryan,
…just to name a few!
Randy Hall says...
MK do you have any videos that make those GOPs look like Maxine and Charles do? You know like they are on drugs or something. If you do, I’ll be glad to pile on them too.
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No Spin says...
Typical LIB retort… “LOOK at what they did!!” Childish bullshit..
THE POINT here is the two who are CURRENTLY in deep for their corrupt activities.. NOT what others have done…
The list is long on BOTH sides..
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No Spin says...
Since Matthew has now piped in, maybe he can answer the two questions roxi and lame run from??
Tell me why the Crooks in DC are spending another $26 Billion on this bullshit Jobs Bill when there is $421 Billion left from the Porkulus bill?
And then there is the $786,000 a year the teachers union is rallying for to provide free Viagra instead of using the money to re-hire laid off teachers..
Is that ok too?
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138hwy says...
kelter..You is a scream. You bring up past Republicans and it reminds me of your fav, oopsbummer, saying around 100 times to “admit respnsibility”, but (every day) he brings Pesident Bush into the mix, or your fav will say that he “inherited” the fiscal condition. And this is 19 months into the corrupt, racist administration.
Will he next blame President Harding?
hahahahahah lol
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Randy Hall says...
“After 50 years of being inundated with stories of white racism, and being taught in college that in this white-dominated society, only a white can be a racist, the American public has been properly brainwashed into accepting the otherwise incredible: A black man murdered eight white people at his place of work because they were white, and the media story is about the murderer’s alleged experiences of racism.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/08/10/liberals_dishonestly_describe_connecticut_murders.html
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138hwy says...
Randy Shouldn’t oopsbummer get on TV and ask for a “teachable” moment.hmmmm
What if the shooter was a white man and shot 8 black folk? hmmmmmmmmm
Me would imagine that lanslither, NBC, CBS would mention this…Ya think?
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Randy Hall says...
Obama is very racist, he has the power and he blames others for his condition.
Now he’s going to blame GW for his hair going gray. oopsbummer!
One very good thing about Obama is he is showing central planning destroys not fixes economies. We can always be greatful Obama taught us that.
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Randy Hall says...
“The First Lady’s ill-conceived trip to Marbella and the complete disregard for public opinion and concerns over excessive government spending is symbolic of a far wider problem with the Obama presidency – the overarching disdain for the principles of limited government, individual liberty and free enterprise that have built the United States over the course of nearly two and a half centuries into the most powerful and free nation on earth.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100050002/the-obama-presidency-increasingly-resembles-a-modern-day-ancien-regime-extravagant-and-out-of-touch-with-ordinary-people/
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marino says...
And it’s usually white liberal dicks that write that double-standard crap.
Basically what they write is whites that commit those types of crimes are racist and non-whites that commit the same type of crime had past issues with racism.
Try to find a white conservative that writes that crap.
So you have a black that killed 8 whites.
You also have a white that has stabbed 15 black males, killing 5.
Are these men racist, or have they simply lost their minds?
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marino says...
Meg Whitman is the best we can do? Help.
http://www.kfiam640.com/mediaplayer/?action=ondemand&item=117305887
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marino says...
I know. But that’s the problem. We find a RINO Republican that’s better than a complete dork Democrat. McCain was better than Obama, but no great prize. Arnold was basically a Kennedy. Now this. Whitman is a lame Conservative. If she would at least pretend to be on one side on illegal immigration, then at least she wouldn’t look wishy washy.
Enforcing immigration laws isn’t going to solve everything. But it will solve plenty.
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roxi says...
Thanks for all the info guys, on this blog – we now know your real platform – keep it up, we love to read and appreciate the candor.
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avbornbred says...
Can anyone tell me what Tom Delay did that was so bad. If I recall, he wished “happy birthday” to Strohm Thurman. I remember the left going ape because Thurman had ties to a white supremacist group like Senator Byrd did.
The left and the left-wing run media found a window of opportunity to attack a conservative, and they did.
When it was discovered that William Jefferson had $90,000 in his freezer, he gave a BS excuse, and the left wing media left him alone. Fellow Democrats stood behind him calling it a right wing witch hunt.
I love the left. At least when a Repbulican is dirty, the GOP does not support him. This is the first time I have heard Democrats denounce Waters and Rangle. Most Democrats are feeling the heat from the Tea Party, and the BS Obama and Pelosi are trying to pull. When Dems start to jump ship from their president, it is not a good sign.
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Randy Hall says...
Roxi, what is our “real platform?”
Well at least tell us what you feel is our “real platform.”
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avbornbred says...
Their “real platform” is to destroy capitalism in the USA by creating such a bad economic environment, the system will fail.
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marino says...
November is comming and if the Democrats don’t flush, the stink will be there. They’re flushing. :-)
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American says...
LOL… there has been a hint of fresh air around lately. I would characterize it as a “realization of reality.”
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American says...
But we’re nevertheless, still knee-deep in the sh*t and probably will be for a while.
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avbornbred says...
When the news of the stimulus broke in 2008, I heard figures thrown about how much each American TAX PAYER would receive if the stimulus was given to them. The figure was something near $450,000 for each tax payer.
If we were all given that amount, imagine how the economy would be stimulated. We would be buying new cars saving the auto workers. We would be buying and paying off our homes, saving the home loan and construction companies. We would be paying for and paying off college loans, saving ecucation. We would be investing in our retirements saving SS. We would be buying computers and TVs, saving the electronics companies. With all of those purchases, imaging how much tax revenue would have been created. Jobs would be created.
The problem, is the politicians don’t think we tax payers are smart enough to put money back into the economy. That is why we have all these rediculus stimulus programs being funded for useless sidewalks, bridges, windows for a building that closed years ago, yoga for menapause, etc….
The American tax payer would have been smarter with the stimulus money than the elected officials.
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Randy Hall says...
Howard Zinn a communist? I would have never guessed that. NOT!
“After years of digging into countless pages of FBI files, KGB documents, Soviet media archives, dusty old copies of the Daily Worker, declassified Comintern Archives on Communist Party USA, and much more, my book was finally going to press, exposing how the communist movement, from Moscow to New York, cynically manipulated — read: duped — liberals/progressives for nearly a century.
Among the words haunting me as I delivered the final manuscript were these: “I am open to the possibility that herein I myself have been duped on occasion.” I acknowledged the likelihood that later declassified documents might reveal certain “innocents” in my book as actually something far worse.
Indeed, my research had affirmed what I long suspected: Many self-professing “liberals/progressives,” especially those railing against the alleged evils and excesses of America and, more so, of America’s anti-communists, were, in fact, hardened communists — albeit closet communists. To cite a few now being carefully reevaluated: Arthur Miller, Harry Hopkins, I.F. Stone, and Howard Zinn."
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/howard_zinns_dupes.html
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Randy Hall says...
An example of liberal compassion,
“A Democratic candidate for state representative in New Hampshire expresses, on Facebook naturally, the wish that Sarah Palin and Levi Johnston had gone down with Ted Stevens’s plane.”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0810/NH_Dem_wishes_Palin_ill.html?showall
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Randy Hall says...
“Many liberals are empathetic. But most of them do not or, because of their education and ideology, cannot differentiate between sympathy and empathy. A man who was born in poverty and later becomes successful has some idea of when a particular needy individual requires practical advice or a loan — rather than a gift of money. The successful man is able to use his accumulated knowledge and/or wealth to specifically address a poor person’s problems. The empathetic person knows the difference between a handout and a hand up.
If liberals were consistent in their ideology, they would voluntarily give their extra income to the government. Liberals, who really believe government can eliminate poverty, manage health care, save peoples’ houses, etc., should be putting their money where their sympathy is.
But overwhelmingly they don’t. Deep down, some liberals get it. The extra ten bucks in a liberal’s wallet is better-spent on a friend who needs gasoline to get to work than donated to the DOE’s green energy programs. Another of our tasks as conservatives is to explain to our liberal acquaintances what some of them already understand: Sympathy is not empathy."
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/manufacturing_liberals.html
hyp·o·crite
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1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
A person that says no cut and paste then cuts and pastes.
lololololololo!!!
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Randy Hall says...
“Liberal thought parallels religious belief — except liberals do not understand (or are loath to admit) that their thought processes are, in effect, grounded in faith.
Let’s reconsider an example given above. Instead of offering a friend ten dollars for gasoline, the liberal gives his “friend” a lecture on the evils of carbon dioxide, tells his associate to walk or ride a bike the thirty miles to work, and (being consistent in approach) donates the ten dollars to the Department of Energy. The danger for liberals, and for the rest of us, should be obvious: by avoiding close scrutiny of their Weltanschauung, liberals are is getting perilously close to sliding past liberalism’s religious orientation and into the nightmare of…the cult."
Faith like Marxism is faith, since it has never been proven or tried.
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“Your lot in life is not because you live in America. You are not a victim if you’re an American. You are among a precious few worldwide, and the people who are not Americans wish to hell they were and will do anything to become Americans. And yet we have a seemingly growing portion of our population who look at being an American as some kind of a limitation, a shackle. You’re not a victim. Life isn’t fair. Life isn’t equal. Nobody can make it fair and nobody can make it equal, and all these things that make you unhappy are not because of the US Constitution. It does not have to be destroyed. It does not have to be blown up. In fact, I would venture to say that most of the unhappiness in the country today is being borne by people who love this country and who are watching it right before their very eyes be destroyed and wish to save it, and they are being told they’re the reasons that life is unfair and unequal, because they are supposedly the majority.”
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_080510/content/01125113.guest.html
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