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Wednesday, June 03 2009 - 09:34 PM
Mayor says Lancaster wants a new Head Shop!
In a surprising move, the citizens of Lancaster, at least according to the Mayor, favor having marijuana dispensaries in their fair city. Despite the fact that this is illegal at the Federal level, the Mayor of Lancaster is majorly “jonesing” to get in front of this issue.
“Medical marijuana is good for the community, dude” said the mayor. “It’s really good for all kinds of stuff that’s bad for you. Some righteous dude with a lot of letters after his name said that it was good for glock, glok, gloko….some really bad eye thing,” added the mayor.
He also stated that it would help support the City’s economic stimulus program. “We have a lot of fast food places that could really use a bunch of citizens with a serious case of the munchies right now,” stated Parris. “An increase in snack food sales would be an excellent side effect.”
When asked why he even felt a need to even be polling the citizens of Lancaster on this matter, Parris stated, “you’re really bringing me down, dude. This is like, you know, a really hot issue that needs to be dealt with in a well thought-out matter. Like wow, I can’t believe I just said that.”
Parris plans to call a press conference tomorrow at 4:20 p.m. to announce plans to search for someone, anyone who will be willing to bring a dispensary to town. The City of Lancaster Parks, Recreation, and Arts Department is looking for local reggae bands to play at the grand opening of the first marijuana dispensary. He also plans to bring the L.A. Sparks up to the Valley to support the effort. Cheech and Chong will be at the ribbon cutting.
scdyne says...
For those that are STUPID this is satire so don’t go bitching to the site admin about how this is defaming the Mayor or anyone else.
This is a good topic to debate and find a solution for (one way or another) and shouldn’t be stymied by ego’s or fears of legal recourse.
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scdyne says...
At the same time I’m a little annoyed that this is the direction the writer has taken on this subject.
It’s worth discussing, but making fun of it and playing into the ‘stereotype’ doesn’t give it the honest attention it deserves.
PKShaw,
I have always wondered why a non-narcotic drug has always been so severely branded by the government and media. I speculate it was an easy prey compared to opiates with there support from the medical industry as a whole.
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John Galt says...
I agree with PK Shaw. It is time we followed the law. The voters in California changed the law. How does any city justify not following it. If the law violates the federal law, it up to the feds to have the law declared unconstitutional. It is really on issue of State Rights.
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scdyne says...
AND I DO AGREE it’s very funny.. In fact I started laughing so hard I choked for 5 minutes.. I think it was a seed or something..
I could to 15 minutes of stand up on drinking my dad’s bong water to get attention and how growing up in Trend housing tract I though that was how Lancaster smelled, but at the same time people who are in need deserve ‘sober’ attention of this discussion.
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John Galt says...
Many people say we should stop treating drugs as a legal issue and start treating it like a medical issue, but if we did that we would have to stop wasting billions of dollars on prisons for non-violent people.
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John Galt says...
PK how do you think AVRA and the Republican Women would vote on this issue?
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John Galt says...
For that matter how would the Chamber and Board of Trade vote on this issue. Would any of them have the cajones to weigh in on the issue.
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01010010-disabled says...
First, pot. Next some tasty legal bordelloes, and Lancaster red-light zone. Parrisville!
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highground says...
Take the profit out of it. Let people grow their own. Bordelloes are for losers who have not discovered it free every where.
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01010010-disabled says...
It’s satire. Sort of like the original post, dimwit.
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Ray Cunneff says...
“Take the profit out of it” is right. As it is, those profits mainly finance gang activity. It’s time to decriminalize, regulate and raise badly needed revenue from the number one cash crop (by far) in the United States.
Top Cash Crops in the United States Average Value 2003 – 2005 ($1000s)
1 Marijuana $35,803,591
2 Corn $23,299,601
3 Soybeans $17,312,200
4 Hay $12,236,638
5 Vegetables $11,080,733
6 Wheat $7,450,907
7 Cotton $5,314,870
8 Grapes $2,876,547
9 Apples $1,787,532
10 Rice $1,706,665
11 Oranges $1,583,009
12 Tobacco $1,466,633
13 Sugarbeets $1,158,078
14 Sugarcane $942,176
15 Sorghum $840,923
16 Cottonseed $821,655
17 Peanuts $819,617
18 Barley $653,095
19 Peaches $474,745
20 Beans $467,236
Based on a comparison with average production values of other crops from 2003 to 2005 marijuana is the top cash crop in 12 states, one of the top 3 cash crops in 30 states, and one of the top 5 cash crops in 39 states. 23 Marijuana is the largest cash crop in Alaska, Alabama, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Kentucky, Maine, North Carolina, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, and West Virginia.
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01010010-disabled says...
No, legalization’s a libertarian pipe dream, RC. A bit of homegrown, OK, but the plebes don’t need any mo’ dope. Te gusta?
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01010010-disabled says...
Alaska style, a bit of cultivation for the worker or phamily dude (or dudette), alright. Cali-style, like kilos dispensed at the liquor store—not a good idea. Rexstein’s just trying to move some product, like most GOP huckster-businessmen. They never quite made it to Keynes (or Adam Smith, for that matter)
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cherritomato says...
Just for your edification-the sheriffs and district attorneys in the AV do not give a rodent’s behind about Prop 215-the medical marijuana law. If they catch you with any-even with the card, you’re going to court-
Misdemeanor possession (less than an ounce-28 grams in one baggie with no scale or small baggies) is the only misdemeanor in Cali with no jail time but you have to go to NA meetings-first time. Second-fines and penalties which can be reduced by community service. Then the merry-go-round starts again. It’s time California and for that matter, the rest of the country to enter the 21st century and stop fighting the “war on drugs” which was lost so long ago, I’ve lost track. We now flush tons of money down the toilet chasing a substance free dream-ain’t ever going to happen so let’s start using some common sense.
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Harding Republican says...
On a serious note, there are places that drugs are dispensed safely and legally. They’re called pharmacies. They are run by medical professionals, not a bunch of Rastafarians with dreadlocks.
I want to be sitting on the front row of the City Council Chambers when Sherry Marquez is asked to vote for this. Somehow I don’t see the Lancaster Baptist coalition going to something like this. Maybe the Mayor should check with the Axel Anderson about this before he takes a leadership role on this matter.
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PKShaw says...
Susan, I’ve been saying this for years but as long as people think the proper role of government is to dictate our private lives, common sense will remain quite uncommon. I have never heard anyone say they weren’t going to use drugs simply because they’re illegal. If they want to use them they will and if they don’t they won’t regardless of law.
But the question of medical marijuana isn’t about getting high, it’s about alleviating the side effects of chemotherapy and controlling the symptoms of other debillitating diseases.
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mvrwc says...
Harding Republican says…
On a serious note, there are places that drugs are dispensed safely and legally. They’re called pharmacies.
a few more places where drugs are dispensed safely are supermarkets, bars, liquor stores and tobacco stores.
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Randy Hall says...
The debilitating effects of a days work instead of a highball. PK I think some have argued this as such.
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CMGINAV says...
So you are obviously still living in the “Reefer Madness” days. You still believe all the propaganda told you by government. The government cannot control it so they demonize it. They can control the heroin trade, the coke trade, the liquor trade, and the tobacco trade, but they have never been able to control the marijuana or the meth trades. With meth they have outlawed or banned many key ingredients, so the tweekers find products with those ingredients in them and try to extract them. Often they are sloppy and the resulting drug is what turns people into toothless, sucked up, zombies. Real amphetamines, pharmacological amphetamines, (like what Elvis or JFK took) do not make you look like that. I’m in no way condoning meth, I’ve had many friends in my past who are still trapped to this day by speed. However a plant that grows naturally, is God given. What is the difference between caffein, nicoteen, alcohol, or marijuana? They are all drugs, they all are widely used. One is demonized, (the one that has NEVER killed anyone) and the rest are ok. It’s completely illogical, and an obvious propaganda campaign.
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CMGINAV says...
Hey Harding, the doctors making the recommendation may or may not be Rastafarian, but what does their religion have to do with anything? You have this weird image stuck in your head of a bunch of hippies smoking pot all around a doctors office or something. We do NOT need the A.M.A. getting their grubby hands on dispensaries or controlling the legislation. Remember when healthcare was affordable for people, when doctors would charge what a person could afford, when they would come to your house? That is when doctors had power over their own profession and practice. That was before the A.M.A. started dictating.
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PKShaw says...
Randy, personally I don’t use either one, but who am I to make that decision for someone else?
Why isn’t medical marijuana dispensed in pharmacies?
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mattkeltner says...
If the Marijuana Pharmacy becomes a reality, it would also be a good idea to pass an ordinance requiring it maintain some sort of Needle-Exchange programme, where IV drug users could properly dispose of their equipment and obtain new and sterile equipment. I would also recommend that those who come in for that purpose be given a brochure with a list of treatment and counseling centres as well.
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Randy Hall says...
I don’t have any problem with MJ. Alcohol and tobacco are legal, why not pot? I think this medical MJ business is bogus.
I still think you should get a DUI if you are stoned and get caught driving. I think one problem with MJ is you test positive for it for day’s even weeks after you use it. So how do you prove a doper is high?
Prohibition taught us that criminalizing alcohol would decrease its use. After prohibition alcohol consumption skyrocketed. I suspect if MJ is legalized the same thing will happen, only the state will get the tax revenue.
My problem with the state getting more money is they’ll expect it and give us more of their failing programs that hook people on their free extorted dollars.
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Randy Hall says...
Typical left noise, it’s neither legal nor illegal. Digital is saying I want everyone high that I want to get high but I want to keep those from getting high I don’t want to get high. Typical no right or no wrong, do it my way or not at all. I’d expect nothing less from you and your box digital.
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Harding Republican says...
Apparently my satire re: Rastafarians was missed.
The point is, this debate should not be taking place on a local level. In terms of damage to society, alcohol has got marijuana beat any day of the week, so that is, in my mind, not that big of an issue.
I think the Mayor is deliberately confusing the public’s desire for marijuana to be legal for medical purposes with opening up a dispensary in Lancaster. This debate should be taking place at the Federal level. If you think it should be legalized, call Buck McKeon or Kevin McCarthy, not Rex Parris. I think the idea of having a local marijuana dispensary run by “who knows?” is a really bad idea. I saw a marijuana booth at the poppy festival. The guys were not wearing white lab jackets. There have been no people with glaucoma begging the City Council to please help restore their eyesight, nor have there been cancer patients begging the mayor to relieve their pain.
I’m still waiting to see Sherry Marquez if and when she votes for this.
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Ray Cunneff says...
I’m not sure why Rex is taking this position, but it’s not going to happen in bible-belt Lancaster (‘the town that banned sex’). There’s a political ploy at work here that we’re all missing.
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Ray Cunneff says...
Nothing is done casually or accidentally. So you must ask yourself… why? Does he want a medical marijuana clinic in Lancaster? Not very likely. So what’s this all about?
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Lancaster Nana says...
Ray why have you become so paranoid. We all have been unemployed and know how stressful this can be, but you are over the top.
On a more serious note, whether you like this mayor or hate him, its been over a year now and can you think of one time he wasn’t honest and up front about what he was doing and thinking?
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Ray Cunneff says...
I have no grief with Mayor Parris. He’s always been straight with me and I with him. I just think there’s more going on here than we understand. Is that so terrible?
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Ray Cunneff says...
‘Nana’,
It’s not paranoia, it’s pragmatism. You guys are not looking to open medical marijuana clinics here, so what’s the play?
I love the game as well as the next guy, but this one has me stumped. Chapelle (and his 3,000) will never support this, so what’s there to gain?
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PKShaw says...
I didn’t think the Mayor of Lancaster had taken a position on this issue. At the last CC meeting all he said was he wanted to get input from several segments of the community. What’s wrong with that?
And Harding, people haven’t gone to the CC meeting seeking relief with glaucoma and chemotherapy treatments because they just buy the stuff from their friends and neighbors. The medicinal value is worth more than the risk of criminal prosecution. Which still begs the question – why should they have to make such a choice?
Forget the dispensaries; sell it in pharmacies.
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01010010-disabled says...
The authentic libertarian solution would be to legalize Cultivation of a few plants. Pharmacies, clinics, shoppes, etc. are the bureaucrat’s solution.
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Captain Jason says...
I would tend to agree with PK on this one. I, too, do not understand why this drug has not been appropriately relegated to licensed pharmacies for proper distribution like any other prescribed drug.
Randy, on the other hand, seem to have forgotten many of the lessons of prohibition. The use of alcohol did NOT diminish during prohibition. In fact, drunkenness was a bigger problem than before prohibition. All that prohibition did was put the manufacture, distribution, and sales of alcohol into the hands of the criminals, creating some of the worst gang violence that the world had ever seen at that time. The ‘drug war’ has done much of the same, for the same reasons.
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01010010-disabled says...
Captain Proper! CA doesn’t need a Dept. of Cannabis, or weed-o-crats. Cultivation the sensible solution.
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Captain Jason says...
Binary, we are discussing medical marijuana. The failure of the drug war and outright legalization of marijuana is a different subject that would necessitate a different response… Although you may have gleaned my position on that from the last response about prohibition…
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Harding Republican says...
PK, you’re actually making my point. He’s taking a leadership role on a non-issue. Ray’s question is correct. Why? In answer to Lancaster Nana’s question of when the Mayor has not been straightforward is when it comes to his wife’s land deals. He’s “not sure” about whether or not she has stuff invested, but he wants to recuse himself anyway? Mm hm.
Maybe he can go naked to the world on all of the LLC’s that he’s involved.
But back to the topic at hand. Marijuana, or more properly THZ does have some medical usages that are valid. The stupidity of the Federal government, or at least their laziness, is keeping this particular product out of the hands of those who truly need it. If it truly has medicinal properties, and most physicians agree that it does, make it available by prescription, at a pharmacy which has lots of safety controls in place. Somehow, I don’t think the dude behind the counter at the dispensary keeps really close track on how much THZ each bongload has.
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01010010-disabled says...
Capn Ninja, that’s a number—82— though I know a byte a bit deep for ya (and let’s not forget your biblethumping pal yappi started the childish “binary” rant). Med. pot was in fact legalized—everywhere in US, I believe— about 5 years ago, but SCOTUS re-classified it as dope. It shouldn’t even be an issue, except to have the House, or whoever uphold the original vote.
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Captain Jason says...
Bi – I am familiar with binary codes, I used to build and program computers myself, my first degree was in electronics engineering.
You seem to have many misconceptions about me. I thump no bibles nor endorse said behavior, but I do not disparage others from their right to believe as they may wish to.
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Captain Jason says...
Oh, and Harding… It’s THC, not THZ.
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01010010-disabled says...
Capn’ Donut, it’s bad news for you, either you fat fraudulent POS. Capiche? Less people to snitch on. Move back to like yr Sac POST barracks, gordito.
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Captain Jason says...
Naming you binary was an apt choice as you appear to be bipolar, as well. It is pointless to argue with one as unreasonably angry as you appear to be. Have fun with your insults. I do not wish to engage in such child’s play.
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01010010-disabled says...
You’re the psychopath, Capn’ Donut: evidenced by your monkey suit, and like your routine right-wing posts. You’re as phony as like yr rent-a-cop monkey suit, you fat bag of mierda.
Back to POST, and the cops you tried to imitate, Kapitan Snitch-zon.
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PKShaw says...
That’s the point I’m trying to make Harding. Since it apparently does have medicinal properties then it should be prescribed and distributed just the same as all other medications.
It could probably be manufactured in pill or capsule form so as not to produce that distinctive odor.
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Captain Jason says...
THC has been manufactured in the form of ‘Marinol,’ but the medicinal effects of the artificially created THC in that drug is reportedly muted versus the ‘real thing’ of marijuana.
Again, I agree with you in that any prescription drug should be dispensed from a licensed pharmacy. Marinol is, why not marijuana?
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138hwy says...
This is rich. Here we have TWO physchos, cap’n stupid and wells, “attempting” to make some kind of (point). haha ha lol
cap’n stupid is a damm liar as I proved him to be about the Tennessee Section 8 scandal, and wells purports to NOT being a socialist/marxist. hahaha lol.
This is akin to believing that cuneff has credibility and that cuneff is not a leftist/marxist like his hero, Hussein Obama..hahahaha lol
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Captain Jason says...
Did someone say something? I thought I heard someone…
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01010010-disabled says...
You heard a right-wing freak, Bum138 (it’s psycho, as in psychotic, like you, little man). Funny, he often sounds about like you, when you’re reminiscing about your POST boot-polishing days. Or was it when you were Police Ossifer in the Village People copy band? You should know better than to fly some phony-badge out eastside, Kapn’ Gordo
(it’s about legalization. Not merely for med. use)
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Phil says...
You’re beginning to catch on, CJ. But 01010010/John Sybil Wells/Cobber Pedy/EN DURO DUDE YA/St. Prick/Al Jolson/Deke/Tech Man/Blitzen/VvvVvv/Starker989/Rommel9/Sockpuppet/MohaveJ/etc., is much more than just bipolar, he/IT is a diagnosed, paranoid schizophrenic. I am unfortunately persoannly acquainted with IT and I’m not kidding. IT IS a diagnosed, paranoid schizophrenic. And the only way to deal with the little asshole nerd is to ignore IT!
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01010010-disabled says...
And Miss Phillie, we told you to stay off the site, liar, ghouliani gal, nazi-punk—or else. Your snitch act is over with: 01010010 has nothing to do with “Pedy,” or the other names you made up, trash. And Capn Snitchson won’t help ya. Back to provo, Enduro gal.
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01010010-disabled says...
I told you to STFU, phillie the nazi gal. Guess you didn’t hear me, puto
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01010010-disabled says...
You’re as bad as 138. Worse, in ways. Even Psycho138 doesn’t fly a phony badge, fat man. Which is to say, you Capn Gordo should be kicked off the site, along with the rest of the psychos—138, Phil the Mormon Enduro Gal, real Steve, etc
Buh bye
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Captain Jason says...
’Tis but a foul wind blowing its lies from across the highway for naught but its own misguided, and befuddled lack, of wit. Nothing more do I hear…
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Ray Cunneff says...
Phil,
01010010 is not Coober Pedy. Trust me.
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01010010-disabled says...
Fool, don’t even pretend your college shit, you fat slob. You don’t have a degree: you have a cop-sucking cert. from a POST, puto. You’d do well to pack your bags, and like head back to POST-ville.
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Coober Pedy says...
I ain’t binary-boy. I’m just here to stick a pin in puffed-up pompous fools like 138hwy and Randy-Dandy. But Randy ain’t stupid like 138hwy. As I’ve said before, 138hwy is an ‘ignoranus’ – someone both dumb and an asshole.
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138hwy says...
Well cuneff, I don’t rant on here and use filthy language like you do. Plus I do not “lie” like you did recently when you stated that I (fled) from the Minuteman protest.
You knew it was a lie, but since you have no character, you put it in words anyway.
This is probably why your tiny local radio “gig” failed so badly. You used Frank Jorge for ratings because ONLY when Mr. Jorge was on the air, could the station say that someone was listening.
And what a shame that was to the tiny audience and to Mr. Jorge also as there is NOT any leftist/marxist,like you, that does not favor and propose open borders, criminality, legalization and amnesty for 22 million law breakers.
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Denise_Latanzi says...
On this one, I am firmly on the mayors side.
I was a proud volunteer for the Prop 215 campaign, collecting signatures, training other people to collect signatures, and then stumping across the state to talk about the proposition.
Now, I made it all the way through my teenage and adult years without trying the drug, had no interest in it at all. My interest came from working with sick people, dying people, whose doctors sometimes just mentioned that the drug might help them, and in some cases, even found a way to get it to their patients. Now, some might argue with a patient with MS, or cancer, or AIDS, about the benefits of medical pot, but not me.
I do not believe the federal government should be interfering with the right of sick people to decide for themselves what treatment works for them. The majority of Californians made their voices clear on this issue in 1996.
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138hwy says...
wells,coober pedy.. Call me asshole to my face. In Person…Want to???
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Captain Jason says...
My, how the hot winds do blow in their futile fury, signifying nothing and knowing even less.
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01010010-disabled says...
You’re the Ignis Fatuus, here , Capn Donut, even lower than the psychos. Put some medals on your monkey suit, puto.
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Ray Cunneff says...
Coober Pedy is the name of a remote outback town in south Australia, made (somewhat) famous in the film “Priscilla, Queen of the Desert”.
As for 138hwy, it’s all on video. Thomas and Kaleen recorded it, an attorney representing AVIMM recorded it. Frank Jorge (were he still here) would verify it.
You ran away when it got scary, when the counter-protesters arrived and it looked like things could get violent. The rest of us (my wife included) stood our ground while you ran away, then later said you left because you were disappointed in the low turnout.
It’s all on video.
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Coober Pedy says...
138hwy says…
wells,coober pedy.. Call me asshole to my face. In Person…Want to???
Coober Pedy says…
Be delighted.
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01010010-disabled says...
As would I, but Billy138’s far too spineless, not to say crazy to ever back up his little macho man act. He’d have his chihuahua there though to bite your ankles. Crazy people, liars, right-wing nutjobs, Coob. That’s what this site is about.
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Coober Pedy says...
Two blokes were picked up by the cops for smoking dope and appeared in court before the judge. The judge said, “You seem like nice young men, and I’d like to give you a second chance rather than jail time. I want you to go out this weekend and try to show others the evils of drug use and persuade them to give up drugs forever. I’ll see you back in court Monday.”
Monday, the two were in court, and the judge said to the first one, “How did you do over the weekend?” “Well, your honor, I persuaded 17 people to give up drugs forever.” “17 people? That’s wonderful. What did you tell them?” “I used a diagram, your honor. I drew two circles like this: O o and told them this (the big circle) is your brain before drugs and this (small circle) is your brain after drugs.” “That’s admirable,” said the judge.
“And you, how did you do?” (to the 2nd bloke) “Well, your honor, I persuaded 156 people to give up drugs forever.” “156 people! That’s amazing! How did you manage to do that!” “Well, I used the same two circles. I pointed to the small circle and told them, ‘This is your asshole before prison……’”
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138hwy says...
cuneff..You are a fucking liar. I told Frank that I was leaving and he said “bye” , as the rally was winding down. Persist in your complete bullshit, and I will sue your old marxist ass. You are nothing but a fucking liar, plus you disgust me.
You have no credibility, lying old man.
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138hwy says...
On second thought, why sue someone who already looks sickly, feeble and old? To serve this idiot, the Marshall would have to find the: SMOKER SECTION.. lol
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Ray Cunneff says...
I suppose Frank was glad to see you go. Most people are.
BTW – I don’t smoke.
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Ray Cunneff says...
“Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.”
—Oscar Wilde
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Phil says...
Thanks for the story about that remote outback town in Austrailia, Ray. But in other words, you haven’t met ‘Coober Pedy’. Thanks again Ray.
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Ray Cunneff says...
“He loves nature in spite of what it did to him.”
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Ray Cunneff says...
“His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork.”
—Mae West
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hobojunction says...
Ray..how is it you continually get the little rodent 138 all aggitated? You and I both know 138 (Billy) ran away..he can put any spin on it he likes, he ran off.
138 is a little foul mouthed rodent who does not deserve the time you take to type something involving him/her/it. Just look at the language this mental midget uses in a public forum where children may be?
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Ray Cunneff says...
hobo,
Anything I say gets Billy agitated. My existence on the planet gets him agitated. I am everything he despises and vice-versa.
He still hasn’t figured out that ‘fascists’ and ‘Marxists’ are total opposites. What a maroon…!
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hobojunction says...
Ray…you cant expect much from a double wide hero….knowledge and education are not actually to high up on his/her/it’s list.
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Harding Republican says...
Ray, if you’re wondering motive, check the 460’s in a month or two. Follow the donations back through a couple of general purpose committees. I’ll bet you’ll find a donation made from some cannabis growers association. Money properly laundered, of course.
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scdyne says...
Here is a theory:
Anyone can grow pot in there backyard and anyone can in turn consume it or sell it. Because of that simple fact it’s difficult for the government to profit from it. That being the case, it’s easier for the government to outlaw it and make money from the enforcement of that law.
What’s the end goal here? To make money or provide those in need a service?
Personally I would rather go to Burns Pharmacy on Lancaster Blvd over Pandora’s Box on Ave I.
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PKShaw says...
I have never understood why this drug, when prescribed, should be treated differently than other prescription drugs. Why do we need a separate dispensary from a regular pharmacy?
Doctors are prescribing, and pharmacies are selling, Vicodin and Oxycontin, along with even stronger opiates, without all this hoopla. Why is medical marijuana such a big deal?
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