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Monday, July 26 2010 - 02:02 AM
This is to Stupid to Believe!!!
(CNN) — Top officials in Mexico said Sunday that authorities at a prison released and armed several inmates to attack a group of people during a birthday celebration last week, in a killing spree that left 17 dead.
Ricardo Najera, a spokesman for Mexico’s Interior Ministry said authorities allowed a group of inmates to leave the Cereso prison in Gomez Palacio, in Mexico’s Durango state, in police vehicles to launch an attack on revelers at a farm in Torreon, in the neighboring state of Coahuila.
“The delinquents were committing their executions as part of a debt-settling scheme against members of rivaling groups from organized crime,” Najera said Sunday of the July 18 attack.
“Unfortunately, in these executions, these delinquents also cowardly murdered innocent civilians,” he said, adding that the inmates returned to the prison after the attack.
Four top Cereso Gomez Palacio prison workers — including the prison’s director — were named as suspects in the investigation, Najera said.
The interior ministry said Sunday that the four suspects had been “detained,” but it was not clear whether charges had been filed.
Police were able to trace the weapons used in the July 18 incident to other violent attacks, Najera said.
Mexico’s interior minister, Francisco Blake, said Sunday that the Gomez Palacio prison incident sheds light on Mexico’s tenuous security and the “deteriorating state” of Mexico’s local law enforcement.
“Today, it is evident that the Mexican state is facing an enormous challenge in security,” said Blake. He asked local authorities to monitor "the presumed complicity of local authorities " with criminal elements.
According to the U.S. State Department, many of the narcotics-related attacks in Mexico have occurred in the northern border region.
Amir Raheem says...
And the hits just keep coming….
(CNN) — The U.S. government has charged 43 people with suspected ties to a leading Mexican drug cartel with participating in a federal racketeering conspiracy, the Justice Department said Friday.
Included in the indictment is an official in Baja California, Jesus Quinones Marques, who the complaint alleges used his position working with the U.S. government to go after rivals and to pass confidential information along to the Fernando Sanchez Organization, described in the statement as an offshoot of the Arellano Felix drug cartel.
His arrest highlights the difficulty of fighting crime along the U.S.-Mexico border, where drug-related violence has surged and local authorities’ aims often seem at odds.
Of the 43 people indicted, 35 have been arrested, according to Deb Hartman of the U.S. attorney’s office in San Diego, California. The defendants are accused of crimes ranging from firearms and drug-trafficking violations to kidnapping and murder.
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lancaster says...
so mexico is out of control. no argument there! or from me! tell me amir. how would u feel about america declaring war on our southern neighbor? we could go in there and clean it up.
probably needs to be done.
to bad our soldiers are 6,000 miles away, fighting for oil, instead.
would have made it a lot easier to come home on leave.
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Amir Raheem says...
I believe war should absolutly be cosidered the last option. However people have got to stop burying their heads in the soil and look at that nation some since of reality. And recognize that as a nation they have a big problem with the rule of law. Left unchecked it could very well become OUR middle-east.
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Amir Raheem says...
Interesting….these 3 stories came from left-field CNN as opposed to right-field Fox.
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roxi says...
Amir – It is not STUPID, it’s reality. You Cons wonder why people will pay huge amounts of $$ to get here, die in the desert to save their families and work for a better job that does not exist in MX.
You wonder what it would be like to have pits of dead people in your desert, some tortured, some eaten by dogs before they rot. Most likely you don’t – you’d rather just clean the slate like Americans have done so many times before with: "1953 During “Operation Wetback” from 1953 and 1958, the U.S. Immigration Service arrests and deports more than 3.8 million Latin Americans. Many U.S. citizens are deported unfairly, including political activist Luisa Moreno and other community leaders."
http://www.tolerance.org/activity/latin … -1903-2006
…or is it:
Operation Wetback followed on the heels of the Bracero Program, in which the U.S. country invited Mexican migrant workers in the country for temporary, nonresident agricultural labor. The need for Operation Wetback partly came from the fact that, shockingly enough, some didn’t leave right away.
http://www.houstonculture.org/hispanic/conquest5.html
Cheap labor from MX and So. America – what a deal for the CORPS. History repeated thousands of times of oppressing the browns to the white mans advantage.
I am still, and will continue to be amazed at what you post.
Calderon has a war against the drug cartel and is loosing. Senore Fox was on the take, slept in silk embroidered sheets – how? There wasn’t a BAN on illegals coming into this country during GWB’s admistration – WAS THERE?
1+1 = 2.
Connect the dots.
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roxi says...
…Left unchecked WE could very well become THE middle-east…with the BS that comes from the Cons about racial and religious animosity generated by the Fox Machine and others.
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lancaster says...
i didn’t realize cnn had stopped reporting the news.
i have NEVER stated here that we DON’T have an illegal problem amir.
what i DO KNOW, is EVERY state of human rights abuse in history STARTS with one group, being convinced that another group is responsible for all of the 1st groups woes.
how do we keep this situation from turning into one of those out of control destruction of people?
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Amir Raheem says...
If you are amazed be amazed that the stories were reported on CNN. You speak as if you know me yet, I can’t ever remember the introduction. Don’t blame me, because I don’t think like you. Hating me will not make you pretty. We come from differant places you and our up bringing etc. are poles apart. The only thing I find disturbing is your prejudice attitude toward me. Almost as if I shouldn’t have my own thoughts.
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Amir Raheem says...
Lancaster in my opinion the destruction has already begun. The situation as it pertains to illegal immigration is already out of control. Why shouldn’t I want ALL people to obey the law?
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Amir Raheem says...
Also Lanc I don’t think you understood my point, regarding the news. I was merely suggesting that the above mentioned stories seem more often to come from FOX not cnn.
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Amir Raheem says...
Yes Rox it is stupid for prison officials to release murderers out of jail to commit more murder….and then those idiots voluntarerly returned to jail. I know you will do your best to rationalize that behavior…I can’t.
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roxi says...
Amir:“Hating me will not make you pretty. We come from differant places you and our up bringing etc. are poles apart. The only thing I find disturbing is your prejudice attitude toward me. Almost as if I shouldn’t have my own thoughts.”
The only thing missing here is you calling me yet one more name. It’s quite prevalent with Cons when they know they’ve been CONNED and have no comeback. I called you no ‘name’, nor did I exemplify any so-called prejudice. I only question your platform… seemingly from an intelligent source, your brain.
I should feel pretty?! Ha!
I do not deny you your thoughts – I only offer my opinion.
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roxi says...
Amir: "I know you will do your best to rationalize that behavior…I can’t. "
yeah, that’s what I said – BS. Go back to your FuckNews.com and get another one. ha!
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lancaster says...
we complain of the burden on our welfare resources. and blame the illegal, instead of one of the biggest transfers of wealth, from the middle class to the rich, in our nations history. do we blame that on the illegal?
we have lost the nations competitive manufacturing co.’s to nations that have a slave class, which will work for basic food and shelter.
do we blame that on the illegal?
we have dropped tariffs on other country’s products to something like 3% as other country’s on us which is closer to 50%, making it impossible to compete, unless we turn our middle class into slaves.
do we blame the illegals?
we have sent the majority of our service sector jobs overseas, were the education systems are now surpassing ours, because we’re so afraid we might educate someones kid “who doesn’t deserve it” we’re willing to let the whole education system go tits up.
do we blame the illegal for that?
what is it worth to get rid of the “illegals” amir?
we now want to hold kids responsible for being here illegally, like children have such control over their lives.
how much of the nations humanity are u willing to give up to fix the problem?
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lancaster says...
why do the right here always assume that ur hated?
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Amir Raheem says...
Rox you presume to know me and you don’t… there in lies the prejudice. You call me a con, tha’s not what I am nor is it my name, but again a presumption. Why not simply address me by my name…or am I not worthy of that type of respect. I take offence because I do my best to not refer to you in derogatory terms.
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Amir Raheem says...
Well Lancaster just as I was saying to Rox….when someone makes it a point to call me out of my name…it doesn’t make me feel very liked. I feel safe in assuming there is an under current of hate. Considering there are names used for me that don’t go in print.
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roxi says...
I am sorry you take it so personally, there must be something I said that turned you off – ha.
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Amir Raheem says...
For each of you please be advised I am an independent voter. I find fault in both parties, and I try to select what I think to be the best person.
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roxi says...
So, what National Platform do you endorse? Enquiring minds would like to know.
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Amir Raheem says...
WEll all I can say Rox is everyone is not like you and if you care so little for equal respect… well I suppose that makes a statement in itself.
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roxi says...
OH! thank you!
So far you’ve only cut & pasted articles from CNN and criticizing.
Your title of this blog is: This is to Stupid to Believe!!!
in reference to thugs being released from prison in MX and go on a killing spree. IS THIS A SURPRISE? IS THIS NEWS? Is this anything different that’s been going on in Jaurez for the past 10 years?
why are you surprised – I’d like to know? and what is your solution? Kill them all and the bus they came in on?
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Amir Raheem says...
Rox what is it you want to know about me. And should I tell you, won’t you just do to me as you have thus far. I mean wouldn’t be a little insane on my part to engage someone that has shown disdain for me without ever meeting me?
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Amir Raheem says...
I didn’t say I was surprised…far beit…I said it was stupid. Yes I pasted the stories, I didn’t want anyone to think I was making up something.
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roxi says...
07/26/10 – 04:02 AM
Amir Raheem says…
WEll all I can say Rox is everyone is not like you and if you care so little for equal respect… well I suppose that makes a statement in itself.
Yeah, isn’t that what’s this is all about? If I agreed 100%, why would I post anything except that you were a god from heaven and passing on important information!
So, do we arm the National Guard and kill ’em all?
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Amir Raheem says...
Yes R. I suppose it is news… I got it from CNN…I also found it on FOX…no surprise there.
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lancaster says...
well amir u would be wrong. i called u amir because u posted this, and silly me, i thought i was asking u questions about ur concern with illegals. ur like the 5th person this week claiming hatred. it’s a bit over the top.
just don’t become dontno, and ask me to threaten u. it’s stupid.
now, i thought i asked some legit questions, if u don’t want to answer or discuss them fine, but enough of the victim crap.
we haven’t been formally introduced but that’s true of damn near everyone here including me and roxi.
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lancaster says...
i got critters to care for anyway so never mind.
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roxi says...
Don’t pull the ‘daddy shit’ on me with respect – this is the mud forum.
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Amir Raheem says...
I am not a god I am only what God created a man. AS I stated before war should never be utilized except as the very last option.
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roxi says...
Yes, we’re pretty sick of seeing the hate here – it’s everywhere.
Call in dontno – he’ll agree with you.
I’ve offered stats and links am called a ‘bad girl’, wah wah wha!!! more than once. Obviously our Amir has nothing else to say.
Time to take care of the critters.
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Amir Raheem says...
Well Rox that may be where we differ…just because there is mud on the ground, doesn’t mean I have to roll around in it. If you choose to of course that is your right…I don’t think I’m your daddy….I’n NOT that old.
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Amir Raheem says...
No I have plenty to say….I just do it on my terms. I won’t allow myself to get into a P@#$ing contest with you Roxi…I would only win :-)
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roxi says...
Well, win with your friends…you lost with me – once again.
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Amir Raheem says...
Lanc I don’t see myself as a victim, I just don’t like being addressed by some made up name when in fact I have a name. I don’t hide behind a made up name. I do believe anyone that knows me also knows my position on ILLEGAL immigration. IT IS ILLEGAL.
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Amir Raheem says...
Rox I’m not trying to change you or otherwise “win you over” perhaps maybe I’m just differant inasmuch I can agree to disagree without all the rigga-maroe
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marino says...
Why are our current and recent Admins catering to the Mexican government instead of Americans?
And when are American citizens going to do something about it?
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lancaster says...
im so sorry. i was under the impression that ur name was amir. my bad.
and no comment to any point i made.
i was also under the impression that ur blog was posted to discuss.
my bad again.
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marino says...
roxi,
Liberals are doing more to keep borders open than any cons. Obama will need legalized illegal voters come 2012.
Corrupt Republicans are outnumbered by corrupt Democrats.
Amir,
AMC is showing “One Flew…” There is no difference between that movie and the whacks on this site.
I will talk to you soon. I’m close to getting my license.
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Amir Raheem says...
Lanc I thought you took for the night. It was not my intention to ignore the points you were trying to make. If you will indulge me I shall re-read this thread and try and address what I missed. (I don’t type fast enough)
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138hwy says...
Amir..
By now, I am sure that you realize that you are blogging/going back and forth with avowed Marxists-stalinists with roxi and lancaster, etc.
People like this have returned to this blog because a leftist blogsite put out by laantzi and marsh was a dismal and complete failure.
I don’t know why they are here, unless perhaps they get bored with the DAILYkos.
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lancaster says...
no, just took an hour to care for the critters. but take ur time.
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Amir Raheem says...
I think this is the area you are refering to….
lanc: we complain of the burden on our welfare resources. and blame the illegal, instead of one of the biggest transfers of wealth, from the middle class to the rich, in our nations history. do we blame that on the illegal?
No you can’t blame the illegal for all of the resource burden….but each person that is causing a drain should be held accountable for their actions.
lanc: we have lost the nations competitive manufacturing co.’s to nations that have a slave class, which will work for basic food and shelter.
You can blame the globalist for that maneuver. Of course they (globalist are using illegals to accomplish their agenda. And don’t forget Bill Clinton’s triumphant effort with NAFTA, also part of the plan.
lanc: do we blame that on the illegal?
lanc: we have dropped tariffs on other country’s products to something like 3% as other country’s on us which is closer to 50%, making it impossible to compete, unless we turn our middle class into slaves.
do we blame the illegals?
Again blame NAFTA and again the illegals are allowing themselves to be used to destabilize the U.S. work force.
lanc: we have sent the majority of our service sector jobs overseas, were the education systems are now surpassing ours, because we’re so afraid we might educate someones kid “who doesn’t deserve it”
The U.S. children are the ones that have lost their standard of education…some schools across the U.S. have 50% drop out rate.
lanc: we’re willing to let the whole education system go tits up.
do we blame the illegal for that?
No I blame the inept legislators that are supposed to be able to see what unchecked immigration will do to any nation…not even mentioning illegal immigration.
lanc: what is it worth to get rid of the “illegals” amir?
Well Lanc just as it is illegal to do many things in the U. S. entering the country voluntarily with out documentation is also illegal, and just as you, me and everyone else must abide by the law I fail to see why that requirement is not to be considered for everyone. I believe I’m suggesting something called equal protection under the law. Basically meaning NO one is above the law.
Away from your points, have you ever read CA. penal code regarding illegal immigration, sanctuary cities etc. Google it. It was written long before the “Arizona Law” I would also suggest in the same search federal law regarding the same. After reading you will see that the officials that have allowed this travesty actually are felons.
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Amir Raheem says...
138 The people, you are refering to perhaps disagree with me on most if not all of my points but I can handle civil/respectful discourse. I just don’t like it when people start labeling/name calling etc. one another or presuming they know what the other person is going to say, before it’s said….that only causes the debate to break-down.
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lancaster says...
we would agree with each other on some of ur responses, BUT, but
“No you can’t blame the illegal for all of the resource burden….but each person that is causing a drain should be held accountable for their actions.”
why do u go after those who have the least? IF WE jailed anyone knowingly hiring an illegal, do u think we would have as many people crossing the border?
“You can blame the globalist for that maneuver. Of course they (globalist are using illegals to accomplish their agenda. And don’t forget Bill Clinton’s triumphant effort with NAFTA, also part of the plan.”
I HOLD CLINTON RESPONSIBLE FOR NAFTA. but do u hold all the repugs who were also pushing for this responsible?
and do u believe that the energy the tea party is putting into going against the individual illegal, would have a bigger impact on immigration, if it went into overturning NAFTA?
“Again blame NAFTA and again the illegals are allowing themselves to be used to destabilize the U.S. work force.”
again, why blame the guy answering the help wanted sign. wouldn’t jailing the employers have a bigger effect, if there were no jobs to be had?
neither NAFTA nor the destabilization of other country’s HAS forced an employer into hiring illegals.
“The U.S. children are the ones that have lost their standard of education…some schools across the U.S. have 50% drop out rate.”
really? it’s the kids fault. not electing a bunch of buffoons who don’t believe in public education, and actively work for it’s failure, as their own children go to private schools, have any blame? and since we pay their salary we pay for their kids private schools.
our laws aren’t what scares me amir. what scares me is the hatred i see in the eyes of americans who have lost so much, but choose to blame only one group. a group that has more in common with me then our ruling class.
if i could only take care of my family by crossing a border, (to a country that had both cultural and blood ties to me to begin with) I WOULD CROSS THAT BORDER.
as stated before, every and all massive human rights nightmares have started like this. from rwanda holocaust, to the jewish holocaust, to the troubles in ireland.
ALL CAUSED BY THE MIDDLE CLASS BEING CONVINCED THAT A LOWER CLASS IS TO BLAME FOR THEIR TROUBLES. EVERYONE!!!
how are we gonna make sure that doesn’t happen? i went to ur tea party this sat.
i saw a whole shit load of problems get oversimplified and placed on the shoulders of illegals.
i would say it’s already started.
when do we just come out and say they’re less then human?
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Amir Raheem says...
Lanc I must bow out of this debate because of the hour…if you desire we can do round 2 tomorrow
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Amir Raheem says...
Well I must have been typing at the same time as you….but I must pause here…I have a long day tomorrow. I shall copy your last comment and will comment then.
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Martel says...
Lancaster, I could not agree with you more in your response to Amir.
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lancaster says...
see, we have more in common then MANY want us to know!
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marino says...
Good. Now you understand why Obama is an asshole along with those in his Admin.
He’s turning the illegal issue into a race issue. He should be talking about enforcing immigration laws so that the unemployment rate can shrink. He should be talking securing boreders. Fining employers, and deporting illegals.
He says Arizona’s enforcement of existing immigration laws is racist and is the Fed’s job. The government is suing Arizona.
Personal gain at the expense of American citizens.
I guess if I’m allowed to rob a bank and get away with it because I need the money to feed my family, then it’s ok. As long as I’m illegal.
He also doesn’t give a flying fuck that blacks already having the highest unemployment rate, are probably not in favor of giving jobs to illegal invaders for political gain.
During which Admin will Americans have finally had enough? Not the last one. Maybe this one, or the next one?
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lancaster says...
obama is turning it into a race issue????
lolololololololololololololololololololololoollllloooooloooohahahahagaaa
ur a riot marino!
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lancaster says...
hey marino, u think working a job for 7 bucks a hour, legally or illegally, is the same as robbing a bank?
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marino says...
I think not enforcing immigration laws has gotten many Americans killed.
Obama turns everything into a race issue. Even during his election when he said he doesn’t look like previous presidents.
Read his auto-biog. He spells it out.
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Martel says...
Marino I think there is a effort in the obama adim. to use race also.They have lost most independents and some conservitive dems all he has left is his base and one way to get the vote out is to make it about race.Dont be surprised if the issue with sherrod was not contrived.
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No Spin says...
Martel
Obama and his Admin are the BEST thing that has ever happened to re-surge the GOP back into power.
The gift that keeps on giving..
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Amir Raheem says...
If that wasn’t enough…..
Mexico City, Mexico (CNN) — Authorities in the Mexican border state of Nuevo Leon have finished excavating and are trying to identify 51 bodies they found in nine hidden mass graves, state media said.
The graves could be connected to drug gang violence, Nuevo Leon Governor Rodrigo Medina de la Cruz told the state-run Notimex news agency.
Investigators found charred remains, incinerated bone fragments and stains of fire on the ground where bodies were presumably burned in steel drums, Notimex said.
Teams from the state attorney general’s office and the Mexican army used dogs and heavy machinery in their 72-hour search of the area, Notimex reported Saturday.
Investigators believe some of the bodies had been dumped within the past 15 days, said Alejandro Garza y Garza, Nuevo Leon attorney general.
Garza said Friday that the bodies were in an area spanning 3 hectares (about 7 acres) in the municipality of Juarez outside the state capital of Monterrey. Investigators were still searching for additional graves Friday, he said, according to Notimex.
The bodies were mostly males between ages 20 and 50, Notimex said, and many of them had tattoos.
Forensic investigators are performing DNA tests to identify the victims, Notimex reported.
Similar mass graves have been discovered in the Mexican states of Tamaulipas, Guerrero and Quintana Roo since late May. Authorities have linked them to Mexico’s ongoing drug war.
Nuevo Leon, which borders Texas, has seen a spike in drug violence this year due to an intensifying rivalry between former partners: the Gulf cartel and a group know as the Zetas.
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