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Friday, April 27 2012 - 02:45 AM
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THE SECRET SERVICE SEX SCANDAL
By J. P. ‘which I had a sex scandal’ Biddle
This whole issue of the Secret Service sex scandal is being elevated much more than need be. Though to be honest, there are issues that are not in the public eye.
Let’s look at the sexual part of it first:
It involved more than the Secret Service, but members of our military as well. First off; prostitution is legal where this happened. Regardless of how you feel about sex or prostitution it still comes down to personal beliefs and standards.
It’s no secret when the boys are away from home with no adult supervision, they will play around, drink and carouse. That’s just how we men roll. It may seem irresponsible, but, boys will be boys. It boils down to consenting adults, and so far, that’s what’s involved in this scandal.
Now to the specifics of this case:
All those involved were involved in one of the most sensitive of operations (for both the Secret Service and for those military personal involved). This involved the Presidential security detail. The personnel assigned to this have to be of the most disciplined and of the highest moral, etc. These are not just soldiers (or government workers) deployed far from home for extended periods of time.
The Presidential protection detail is the top priority of government service. As such, they have to live by a higher code of ethics and standards. The conducted exhibited by these men put the security of our President at risk. These men put themselves in a position where they risked being blackmailed, thus putting the security of our President in dire risk.
As such, this is unacceptable and is likely a violation of their job descriptions, which subjects them to strict disciplinary actions (such as being fired, suspended, demoted, or re-assigned to a less sensitive area of responsibility.)
Since the lessons learned from the assassination of JFK to the attempted assassinations of Presidents Ford and Reagan, we know the importance of protecting the President. Hell, even the Pope needs protection. Which is a sad commentary on humankind? But, that is the world we live in today. That is why this whole issue is being taken seriously and being investigated by the highest of authorities. This is a serious breach of Presidential security—a cardinal sin amongst those who are assigned to that detail.
Yes, those may be higher standards than most of us would be willing to work under, but those who choose to undertake it know the requirements and the sacrifices they must make. Those involved have failed to live up to the standards for which they had agreed to.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Just another example of the poor leadership of our Dog Eater in Chief’s failure.
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Martel says...
Speaking of sex one guy in china wont have to woory about that anymore.He was in an argument with a women over a parking spot and she squeezed his nuts until he died. True story.
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Cagy Wolf says...
Martel I wonder if she used the “Monkey Stealing a Peach” martial art move. I know at least several ways that the nutsack can kill you. Hell just plain crushing them unexpectly can do that, also ramming a knee properly up into the testicles will kill if done right. But you have to use a lot of force to ram that knee up there right.
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avbornbred says...
With a president who had pizza parties in the Oval Office and who partied with barely legal interns, it does not surprize me the Secret Service lost their focus. Seeing our military post photo images of pissing on dead enemies and cops slapping homeless women in full view of the public, it is obvious there are some common sense morals missing in our leadership and in our society.
Training means nothing if the people being trained cannot forsee the consequences of their sctions. We live in a society that is very open with its use of explicit language and images in music, movies, and the internet. We have lowered our standards when it comes to our leaders, Clinton and Obama, and with hiring practices in law enforcement.
Maybe we need to watch the video of President Reagen getting shot to remind us of how the Secret Service acted that day with the one agent, making a split second decision to shield the president with his body.
We have a society who respects the actions of PFC Bradley Manning releasing confidential documents in an attempt to undermine our military. We have a president who surrounds himself with people with questionable backgrounds who now walk the halls of our highest office.
It is evident we have breakdowns at all levels including our teachers.
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AV Town Crier says...
AVB
We have a serious moral breakdown in this country and what is more scary is a total lack of ethics. They don’t teach it at schools anymore, and it’s clearly not taught at home.
Thank God, my parents taught me and my sister the value of ethics early on and demanded that we live up to them.
Trust me it’s not hard. I worked in Civil Service for 25 years and guarded the taxpayers investment better than my own. I saved the taxpayers tons of money during my years with the LA School Dist. I have very little to show for it. I made a lot of sacrifices for the kids that students at the schools I worked at.I have no regrets.
In my personal life I have never cheated anyone, injured anyone, etc., etc.
I’m not saying this for a round of applause or anything, just to make a point about ethics. I’m not saying that I’m a saint or that I am perfect. But, at least I learn from the mistakes I make.
You would think that those in high office would be above reproach and live by a higher code of ethics than they do.
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Martel says...
cagy I dont know what method was used I read it today on the internet.
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Martel says...
avtown,Remember we were once taught civics in school.
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AV Town Crier says...
Martel
Once, like a long time ago. It clearly is not stressed enough.
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avbornbred says...
When a Secret Service agent argued with a prostitute over $47, he deserves to get his ass kicked. Now his argument turned into a scandal that got a lot of people fired. He is not a popular person. He should have paid his bill and lived with the memory of bad sex from a prostitute.
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AV Town Crier says...
AVB
Absolutely! I was in the service, overseas and that occasionally happens. You live with it. When you are dealing with ‘that’ world, you’re gonna get screwed, one way or another. He paid to get screwed and boy did he.
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roxi says...
I thought he agreed to $800, but would only pay $30?
Guess he gets away with it in Dee Cee, but not in Columbia, where it’s legal.
But, boys will be boys, won’t they AVTC?
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Cagy Wolf says...
AVTC and Roxi it was pretty stupid of those SS agents do this while on a mission. And to be cheap and not pay was dumb as hell. But again it shows that morals and ethics aren’t taught in school, hell the NRA had classes at classes teaching the proper use of firearms and look at today. Kids watch TV and movies where violence is the answer to all problems, factor in the video games and you have a kid ripe to explode. Colobine story doesn’t mention the fact that those two kids had been bullied for years and finally took the law into their own hands. I’m not saying what they did was right but its understandable. Its like hazing, my son was hazed and he pulled a knife to stop it, he got in trouble not the ones hazing students. In fact I told his aunt that he did the right thing to stop the hazing however he did it, since their is no way of telling what might have happened if he hadn’t. Like the kids that was tossed in a pond who hit a submerged steel pipe and ended up paralized after being thrown in on a hazing.
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roxi says...
04/27/12 – 04:53 PM
avbornbred says…
Training means nothing if the people being trained cannot forsee the consequences of their sctions We live in a society that is very open with its use of explicit language and images in music, movies, and the internet. We have lowered our standards when it comes to our leaders, Clinton and Obama, and with hiring practices in law enforcement.
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Uh…..DEAD is DEAD, Mr. Armchair-General – that apparently is the CONSEQUENCE of most killings.
We teach them how to kill people, send ‘em over for 3-4 deployments and then expect them to remain something nice and tidy, like Mr. & Ms. Normal and feel nothing after they’ve murdered 100’s of people and have seen all their buddies ooze out their guts before their eyes.
Mr. Armchair, is it time for a new slipcover? Ask your decorator…..
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AV Town Crier says...
Roxi
That is inhumane and out and out insane to be sending our troops over there for more than one or two (at max) deployments. We need to end these asinine wars.
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avbornbred says...
Gee Roxi: my son is on his 3rd tour in Afghanistan. He has some PTSD issues and has told me sbout Iraq and Afghanistan. I have had plenty of service members spend nights snd weekends at our home. We give to the Wounded Warrior program and belonged to the AV Blur Star Mothers. Take your Mr. Armchair comments and kiss your own ass!
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avbornbred says...
Maybe are military is short handed because Clinton reduced the numbers back in the 90’s. We never recovered numbers wise after Clinton. Think about it, 500,000 US Troops on the ground in the first Gulf War. After 911, we struggled to keep 200,000 on rotations.
Roxi, liberals cant give honest assessments of the military. Libs quick to condem soldiers, and side with our enemies when oir military is victorious.
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RealSteve says...
@avbornbred
There is a question of should we even be over in the Sand Box?
With Obama setting deadlines to get out, the war in Afghanistan is all but over, just running out the clock.
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avbornbred says...
Roxi: your liberal dislike for the military really came out in your above comment. You said our soldiers “murder” people. How about kill the enemies of our country. I don’t think all the veterans you claim to support would appreciate you calling them murderors.
Typical lib. Use cops and vets for photo ops then rip rip them. It would be a good time to delete your own comment so the other bloggers don’t see what ass in mouth looks like.
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roxi says...
MURDER is MURDER, chair-sitter. Whether you kill someone ‘cause he looks different’ or you KILL someone because some asswhipe in the Pentagon told you to – DEAD is DEAD.
Since you do not see the difference between the enemy or the oppressor, you might want to think that all BLOOD runs RED.
This is not a ‘librul’ vs ‘conservative’ issue – this is an American Issue. We ALL ‘pay’ for our freedom, one way or another. YOU are on the wrong page, sir – turn it – or remain in the chair, where you belong.
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avbornbred says...
Ahh Roxi: yes it is an American issue. Ask yourself, why do we have a military? Why knock the Pentagon? That so called “ass wipe” is a member of our military and the Pentagon knows things that you or I don’t.
I would have loved to seen your reaction to the news of 911. If you were really angered, you would have supported our presidents actions. Instead you became critical because of your liberal views and open wounds from the 2000 elections. Your hatred for Bush is greater than that of the Taliban.
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avbornbred says...
Call me a chairsitter. How wrong you are with that one laughing-girl! I was a public servant for over 30 years. A front line servant of the people, helping people of all ages, races, social groups, rich, and poor. I made changes in peoples lives and have seen our home society at its worst. That is why I have a public employees pension, not because I was lop.
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Ray Cunneff says...
I have two years active duty, four years reserves. KMA!!!
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AV Town Crier says...
I, too am a veteran, and support our troops. It’s not the soldiers who create wars, its our leaders. Whether right or wrong (let history decide that)it’s the soldiers duty to carry out their orders. Trust me, I know about controversy as a Vietnam vet.
I just feel that it’s inhumane to send our kids to more than two deployments. If we need more soldiers to prosecute any more of our wars then a draft has to be re-instituted.
Our cowardly leaders wouldn’t do it because it’s political suicide. But. too me, that’s the cost of war. If you’re going to go to war, you need to grow a pair and call for a draft. If not, shut the fuck up.
Whether our current wars are right or wrong, that’s a political question we can (and should) debate. But remember, our kids are dying there.We need to be sure it’s worth it. 9/11 justified us sending troops over to the middle east. They just went to the wrong country. But we have to live with that decision.
But we can’t blame the troops for that. My hat’s off to every soldier who dons a US military uniform and marches off to the battlefield!!!!!!
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Cagy Wolf says...
AVTC your comments and service in our military needs thanking for. Thank you for your service both in and out of the military. Roxi can’t see that when you kill the enemies of the USA it isn’t murder, nor was it murder when Zimmerman shot little Traylor Martin, that is called self defense and more wars are fought in self defense of the nation,we as a people have allowed our leaders to do pretty much as they please. It is a crying shame that our troops are spending more and more deployment overseas in a hot zone.
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AV Town Crier says...
CW
Thanks for you comment. It’s not a violation of the Bible to kill in self defense. It’s not murder (as long as you obey the rules of war set out by the Geneva Convention).
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Cagy Wolf says...
Thats just it, we are and have been fighting too many wars for other reason than self defense of the nation and war is a failure of dipomacy.
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Cagy Wolf says...
The way I look at the Zimmerman/Martin case is two nutcases confronted each other. One not too well trained individual against a hot headed thug who if he had had some common sense would have kept running or enter a store where there were other people around.
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roxi says...
Time for the Camel Club to step in and weed out the herd….
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